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I was thinking of picking up Prime Directive. It comes in two flavors GURPS and D20. Seeing how the only thing I'll ever run will be Savage Worlds I was wondering which engine do you guys think Savages more easily.
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Ben Jackson · Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:00 pm Post subject:

I voted d20, although I have never personally done any converting. The reason I voted for d20 is because there is a conversion guide right in SWR. I am interested in the results of this poll, though, because I definately want to start converting. (have to get a lot more experience under my belt, first Smile

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lamrok · Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:06 pm Post subject:

I vote for GURPS because, in general, translating a Universal system to a Universal system is fairly easy. I've translated loads of GURPS stuff to Hero over the years with no problems at all.

fanchergw · Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:14 pm Post subject:

Actually, since there is a d6 version coming, you might want to wait for that. From what I know of the system, it is probably more similar to SW than either GURPS or d20.

Gordon

Big_Pete · Novice Joined: 07 Aug 2005 Posts: 29 Location: OZ

I find that GURPS has more usable source material than D20, which I find to be Rules heavy.

Pete

jblittlefield · Legendary Joined: 13 May 2003 Posts: 7472

IMHO, neither -- you don't convert the numbers, just the feel when Savaging a setting, so rule sets are irrelevant. I can just as easily Savage Palladium as I can GURPS or D20 or D6 or whatever. Wink

Revolution 9 · Veteran Joined: 05 May 2005 Posts: 593 Location: Ohio

JB said it first. Just go with whichever version has better background info and so forth. Don't worry too much about the numbers.
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screenmonkey · Veteran Joined: 15 May 2003 Posts: 749

Since either will convert as well as the other (though i think GURPS will go better, it really depends on which of the two you're more familiar with), the question is which will be a better quality book. GURPS products are better than d20 products as a rule of thumb. Go with the GURPS version.

razorwise · Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:04 am Post subject:

While you don't convert the numbers literally, they do have importance when it comes to relative scale of creatures abilties, attributes, and skills. I'm surprised no one suggested converting from the system you're most familiar and comfortable with (i.e. Gurps or D20). That's what I would do with all other variables being equal. Smile

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Sean
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Savage Jedi · Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:33 am Post subject:

Thanks for all the help guys, especially jb for reminding me that rule sets aren't as important when converting to SW. I never had a choice between two systems for one setting and I guess it threw me off.

I'll probably go with GURPS version for the reasons Big Pete brought up, which I agree with.

PAT!
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razorwise · Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 10:37 am Post subject:

Bill, that may work fine for you and others with more experience in conversion; people newer to the process need some direction. Take for example an alien that is listed as really strong---is that a d8, d10, d12, or higher? It varies based upon the writer's skill and the reader's perception. But most people have the baseline experience to know, in a d20 game, that a Str of 14 is gonna rank lower than one of 18. If Shane and company didn't think it was necessary and thought it could all be instinctual, I doubt they'd waste the space to put the conversion chart in the book. Smile

Just my two cents. I'm sure your process works fine for you, but a lot of people are more comfortable with guidelines until they get a feel for the process.

Personally, as I go through conversion processes of various products and systems, I don't attempt a literal translation, either. To do so, can take a lot of time and effort with little, if any noticeable, effect on gameplay, so I see your point. I'll just emphasize that everyone is new once and we should all remember that and look at it from their perspective. Smile

Ultimately, the feel of the setting is the thing, sure, and however you get there is fine. Proof of success is everyone having a good time.

Regards,

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Vonether · Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:57 pm Post subject:

Prime Directive ... that Star Trek, right?

Well, in that case you do it in true Savage fashion. You reach out to the great SW fan base and find what's on the fan sites to give you a jump start.

www.savageheros.com is a great place to start.
http://www.savageheroes.com/conversions.htm

Mr. Freak · Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:07 pm Post subject:

D20 by a long shot, now most of the low level Gurps stuff is easy to savage, but when you start trying to get the gritty realism that is in Trans Human space or some of the other math heavy Sci-Fi settings it does not work too well.

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