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jblittlefield · Legendary Joined: 13 May 2003 Posts: 7472

Should future issues of Shark Bytes run serialized pulp stories as a regular attraction?

I'm inclined to say yes, if it's what you guys want. Wink

razorwise · Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 8:08 pm Post subject:

JB,

My take is no, unless it's original stuff and you need to fill up a light issue. (I've read the Doc Savage stuff as well as The Avenger stuff too.)

My suggestion would be to, maybe, have a column entitled "Inspirations" or something along those lines and have a synopsis of books or suggested further reading.

I remember something like that in FAST COMPANY magazine ages back where biz folks were asked "What were there favorite websites?"

Same sort of format I'm suggesting, like asking, Joe PEGhead their favorite book/books, movie, comic, etc. that inspired their work on Project XYZ.

But then again, remember that sometimes free advice is worth what ya pay for it! Very Happy

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palehorse · Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 8:46 pm Post subject:

I'm voting yes, but I'd prefer you stick with using pre-existing public domain stuff (like the Doc Savage stories, The Shadow, Lovecraft, etc.) rather than switching to fan-produced works.
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Leitchy · Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:05 pm Post subject:

I also voted yes, but I'd give fan-written fiction a shot. But it has to be worthwhile. Don't publish it if it's rubbish. This should be the one exception to your "send it and it will be published" rule, JB.

I believe encouraging fans to write fiction can only be good, since it's one means of enjoying the game. However, the decision to print or can the piece shouldn't be made unilaterally; you need an informal "editorial board" to help make the decision, casting the deciding vote, if necessary. I'll happily participate on such a board.

So, if there's a good fan-fic effort, publish it, otherwise, stick with the copyright free material. While some people may have read them, that doesn't apply to the great majority. In either case, the reader needn't read the fiction if they don't want to. It's not like they're paying for the thing, after all. Wink

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razorwise · Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 12:22 am Post subject:

Leitchy,

Why is the majority always great and not the minority? Razz

I concur that fiction needs to meet a certain standard. If fiction IS included, I'd hope it at least ties in to the theme of the issue.

Regarding the bureaucracy you're suggesting. Sure, why not?

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DerFinsterling · Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 2:46 am Post subject:

I don't care if it's public domain or fan-work - as long as it's a good read Wink

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the masked mook · Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 3:55 am Post subject:

I'd say yes even to fan stuff as long as it was a) Related to the topic and B) Passable fiction.

Nevada Jim · Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 7:03 am Post subject:

yes

public domain or fan-work
fiction related to topic, pulp
it's all good
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siefertma · Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 7:43 am Post subject:

Fan fiction!!!! (Shudder...) Surprised

I have images of poorly written Star Trek/Buffey/Sailor Moon crossovers that are nothing more than some unimaginative geek's sick, obsessive sex fantasies. (Ooooooh! Hot Willow/Comander Ivanonva/She-Ra girl-on-girl-on-girl action!)

What amazes me is that anyone would want to share this crap with the rest of the world.
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Mr. Freak · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 6:53 am Post subject:

Ahh, but that is what the internet is for. Sharing your sick obssive crap with the world.

I voted no, fan fic is not why I read and down load an RPG zine.

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Mike McCall · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:19 am Post subject:

I'm in favor of serialized fiction, definitely. I would also consider original works based in either original settings or Savage Settings, personally. Though given that, as the editor, you have to be the one to say "No, this is crap", I can understand why you'd avoid it.

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Storn · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:44 am Post subject:

I voted no. a weak no.

but I have a caveat. I think it would have been great if that Man of Bronze excerpt had a couple of SW write ups. A piece of gear or a spell or a character that the text touched upon. If the piece had Doc and a couple of the others written up, then I think its inclusion as fiction gives "back" to the role playing side of the zine.

But god, that was some wretched writing... sheesh. I had never read those before, but while greatly imaginative, I was stunned by how poor the wordsmithing was. yup, I think fan fiction could be and should be better than Mr. Dent's. It just doesn't have the name recognition.
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Mister Gone · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 12:53 pm Post subject:

I voted a strong No. And, as I see it, the votes do not reflect more people in favor; they reflect more people either not wanting fiction or indifferent. I don't want it in there because it bloats the file and personally it's not why I seek out such a document. Wasted space in my opinion. It would be easier to simply reference literary works to read rather than bother to...

...actually, do whatever the Hell you want.
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razorwise · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:05 pm Post subject:

JB,

I take full culpability for diverging your question into the realm of FAN fiction. Razz

That being said, I'll have to go for a NO to serialized pulp fiction. I like the suggestion Storn made about the write-ups and I think that a compromise could be reached. How about having the character write-ups in the zine with hyperlinks to the online serials? If you don't like that, just leave the fiction outta the mag and on the website. Very Happy

Saying "No" to garbage writing shouldn't be taken personally, however. Comes with the turf of being an editor. Seriously, however, I urge you to consider it. There are some awfully creative (read twisted) minds out there. You might be missing out on the next Jonathan Carroll.

http://www.jonathancarroll.com/indexframes.html

Later,

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palehorse · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 4:34 pm Post subject:

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