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MPT Novice
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:37 am Post subject: [50 Fathoms] Why are Medicine Chests so expensive? |
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In 50F a Medicine Chest costs $1,200 and consists of the chest itself and 10 doses of medicine which cost $50 each (total value $500).
A quick calculation shows that the chest itself must be worth $700. Why? If the only way to get the medicine was to buy the chest then it might be understandable but since you can buy the medicine seperately (to restock) why not buy a cheap chest and fill it yourself?
(Surprisingly there is no costs given for Barrels or Chests in either SWD or 50F, but that is another matter)
My solution ... all Medical Chests are only given to those who can prove that they are doctors. Therefore, having a Medical Chest is a sign that the person with the chest is a doctor and so people with injuries etc. will come to them for help. i.e. the chest is the equivalent of a certificate that proves they are compentant. The cost of the chest is therefore set extra high so only true doctors will buy it. |
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Enno Veteran

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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:56 am Post subject: |
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Remember, you get +2 on your disease healing rolls too!
As mentioned in the description diseases are plenty on Caribdus, as medicine is rare. So such chests are in great demand and expensive. _________________ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who know binary and those who don't. |
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Sadric Veteran
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:36 am Post subject: |
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Without reading the description I would say that it isnt simply a chest, but a lot of non-consumed medical tools like different scalpels, forceps, needle, a bone saw and such things.
If the medicine are used up it isnt totally worthless, it simply counts as "medical care" for healing times. |
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TheLoremaster Heroic

Joined: 27 Jun 2003 Posts: 1913 Location: Buffalo, NY
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:45 am Post subject: |
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| Sadric wrote: | Without reading the description I would say that it isnt simply a chest, but a lot of non-consumed medical tools like different scalpels, forceps, needle, a bone saw and such things.
If the medicine are used up it isnt totally worthless, it simply counts as "medical care" for healing times. |
Yes, this. Consider the medical chest to provide the "proper supplies" for making healing checks. Without one, the healer is at -2 to all Healing checks ... AND he still needs to track the medicine he uses. Fun! _________________ "Your GM is metagaming ... and wrong!" |
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Enno Veteran

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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:49 am Post subject: |
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Following the description, it has to be replenished to be of any use...
As it is for healing diseases only, i doubt that it includes more than the basic tools. I think it includes a few tomes about diseases and the procedures and receipts to heal them... _________________ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who know binary and those who don't. |
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USP45 Novice
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:53 am Post subject: |
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I've only just purchased 50 Fathoms so dunno for sure but wouldn't most characters be pretty rich in this game anyways? What with all the boating from place to place and trading and all that.  |
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Clint Site Admin

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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:15 am Post subject: Re: [50 Fathoms] Why are Medicine Chests so expensive? |
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| MPT wrote: | In 50F a Medicine Chest costs $1,200 and consists of the chest itself and 10 doses of medicine which cost $50 each (total value $500).
A quick calculation shows that the chest itself must be worth $700. Why? |
Because the chest has more than just medicine in it; the medicine is just the only consumable part that has to be replaced. The rest of the chest contains medical equipment designed for treating diseases and working with the various medicines (like mortar and pestle, other vials for mixing, etc.), so it takes both the equipment and the medicine to gain any benefit.
Make sense? _________________ Clint Black
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TheLoremaster Heroic

Joined: 27 Jun 2003 Posts: 1913 Location: Buffalo, NY
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Enno wrote: | | I think it includes a few tomes about diseases and the procedures and receipts to heal them... |
Hey, I like that idea! Suggests a couple of plot lines based around finding rare ingredients to cure an unusual affliction.
"So, you say you've got scabies, right? Well, let's see what we can do about that .... hmm ... says here to make a poultice for that we need ... *gulp* Sea Dragon Cartilage ... uh, CAPTAIN!!!"  _________________ "Your GM is metagaming ... and wrong!" |
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VonDan Legendary

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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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I'll get images of the bone saw up later when i find it
Brain Drill
"I can remove a man's leg in 60 seconds there is no time for any bugs to get in the wound, not even your invisible bugs called germs"
~A civil war doctor said to Louis Pasture _________________ http://s61.photobucket.com/albums/h51/Vondan/
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Enno Veteran

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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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| TheLoremaster wrote: | | Enno wrote: | | I think it includes a few tomes about diseases and the procedures and receipts to heal them... |
Hey, I like that idea! Suggests a couple of plot lines based around finding rare ingredients to cure an unusual affliction.
"So, you say you've got scabies, right? Well, let's see what we can do about that .... hmm ... says here to make a poultice for that we need ... *gulp* Sea Dragon Cartilage ... uh, CAPTAIN!!!"  |
That was my general idea. Even if it says that it costs only 50 gp to restock the ingredients, it doesn't say that all are commonly available, nor easy to get or already processed.
I thought more about very rare plant on a forlorn island, yet your idea sounds even better.
Generally i see some items as ideal plot devices for the GM. _________________ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who know binary and those who don't. |
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VonDan Legendary

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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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In a POTSM the GM let one of my NPC who had the skills Herbs, Healing and Alchemy to make a check like a survival check but the result is one dose of healing plant _________________ http://s61.photobucket.com/albums/h51/Vondan/ |
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Enno Veteran

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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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I think it looks more like this one here, used by Lewis and Clark:
Follow the link and scroll down for a list of its ingredients  _________________ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who know binary and those who don't. |
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VonDan Legendary

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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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A friend is a EMT and event medic and Civil War reenacter so at one time he had a complete Civil war hospital with a tent and cots and several medicine chest like that from the civil war. There is still some sticky black stuff at the bottom of the laudnum bottle _________________ http://s61.photobucket.com/albums/h51/Vondan/ |
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MPT Novice
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:28 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the replies.
This question was raised by one of my players (I am currently GMing 50F) so now I can show him this thread and get him to hand over his money. |
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Snate56 Legendary

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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Enno! That's great info!
SteveN _________________ "We've got a blind date with destiny... and it looks like she's ordered the lobster." <The Shoveller> |
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VonDan Legendary

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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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you need to have the human party visit a Scrullian doctor. The human patient has a minor wound on the arm and the doctor keeps snapping his claws sawing “Don't worry I'll cut your off tentacle right here and it will grow back in a few months” _________________ http://s61.photobucket.com/albums/h51/Vondan/ |
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Sitting Duck Legendary

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VonDan Legendary

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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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it just came to mind that in the Asian influences areas they would have a medical chest for travel in the form of a wooden box with drawers that is worn on the back. I had a Mushroom Man Monk that had one full of spices for his cooking
You might have seen them in kung foo movies, the wondering wise man has it full of herbs.
Wiki on Japanese cabinetry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tansu
Kusuri-dansu : They were apothecary chests with many small drawers to contain medicinal herbs. Because the chests/boxes often needed to be carried by itinerant salesmen, they were often constructed of light weight Kiri
With one of these if any of the NPC or followers looses one or more hands or arm they can still hang back and carry the medical supplies
http://kaigou.dreamwidth.org/209425.html?thread=2368273 _________________ http://s61.photobucket.com/albums/h51/Vondan/ |
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