Great White Games/Pinnacle Entertainment Group

Harlan · Novice Joined: 02 Jun 2010 Posts: 75

Dear Pinnacle-Crew,

german publisher Nackter Stahl has announced to release the Doomstone RPG on November 1.

Judging from its teaser, this RPG is a blatant copy of your fine Deadlands-Setting. This is - to say the least - morally outrageous.

However, inertia in publishing a german version of Deadlands:Reloaded has also lasted much too long. I sure hope that the rip-off shall not quench but spur any ambitions to publish DLR here.

Cheers

Pariah74 · Veteran Joined: 16 Jun 2009 Posts: 934

Is the Western genre big in Germany/Europe? I guess I always assumed it was something only us Americans got into. Other than Spaghetti Westerns in the 60s I didn't think Westerns were really interesting to Europeans.
I guess it makes as much sense as Americans being into King Arthur or something like that.
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Timon · Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:44 pm Post subject:

Harlan · Novice Joined: 02 Jun 2010 Posts: 75

Pendragon is the first and Deadlands the second RPG, I ever heard about.

Wink

I guess, interest in the Western genre is considerably smaller here, than in the states, but it was and is still big enough to justify german editions of the Deadlands Classic releases. And the german edition of the SW core rules has just seen its second printing. From this alone, it is a fair guess that DL.R won't be stillborn.

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Sitting Duck · Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:53 am Post subject:

VonDan · Legendary Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 3249

Pariah74 · Veteran Joined: 16 Jun 2009 Posts: 934

No "like" button here...but there should be. lol
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marshal kt · Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:27 pm Post subject:

My wife and I are in a shooting group that dress like cowboys & use western guns; pistols, rifle & shotgun.
The 'sport' has gotten bigger in Europe the last several years, with new LEGAL ways to own guns in Europe.
A1-2 of the biggest reproduction gun makers are in Italy.

It seems to be more of an age gap than a distacne gap. More people on the 50+, or especially 60+ [and up] ages are or were, into westerns than the younger ages.
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VonDan · Legendary Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 3249

Big Bad Jack · Novice Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 94

As I understand "Easterns" were kinda big in the Soviet days.. I think the term cinema types use is "Ostern"?

kronovan · Veteran Joined: 01 Mar 2011 Posts: 678

Meh, I don't see the plagarism. Based on what little is covered in that preview I personally can't see how the OP could make this comment:

Preatori0us · Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:58 pm Post subject:

I think they're ok with the IP, just cutting it a bit close. Who knows? Maybe it'll bring more Deadlands players in?

Off topic-wise, the cover art reminds me of the Warmachine books...time to go to the Savage wiki!
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VonDan · Legendary Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 3249

yeah it is like if i sued some one just because I have a 26 yo hand drawn map from my rpg world with the name "pinnacle" sketched in as the name of the witches fortress

Cutter XXIII · Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:42 am Post subject:

Actually, VonDan, with a few exceptions hand-drawn maps are nothing like a published RPG.

But still, the amount of comments from PEG staffers on this issue since last October should be indicative of how pressing it is.

And no, I don't mean we've been working so hard on it we haven't had time to post. Wink

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VonDan · Legendary Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 3249

a 26 year old map and a audience of 150 school kids who watched the play about the prince and his quest to the pinnacle. But i assume all they remember is the valley talking princess Sun Zorkel "Gag me with a Grail" and me as the rock star hero at the end.

Virgobrown72 · Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:37 am Post subject:

I dont know i would call it a blatent rip off, i'd more call it a "suspiciously similar" game, with a"questionably familiar" game mechanic involving playing cards. I think the only reason it isnt a complete lone could have been a matter of a language barrier, if nothing else...
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