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Thunderforge Veteran
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:48 am Post subject: Blast from the Past: Official Settings that Never Made it |
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While looking for some Savage Worlds files, I stumbled across Savage Lythia which had a page dedicated to FAQ and errata for Savage Worlds. The April 2005 FAQ listed a number of Savage Worlds settings that were listed as "Coming Soon and Much Much Later." Some of them did wind up being released, but others never did see the light of day:
- Rippers RPG (Victorian monster hunters who can gain powers from their prey)
- Low Life (In the distant future, creatures descended from " cockroaches, worms, snack cakes, and stranded aliens" have inherited the "Oith". The strangest comical post-apocalyptic setting ever devised.)
- Slipstream (Flash Gordon style science fiction with a Savage twist.)
- Sundered Skies (Flying ships, floating islands and fantasy horror)
- Modern Ops (Modern-day skirmishes in the format of Rippers: The Horror Wars.)
- Red Rising ("Near future sci-fi thriller with elements of Paranoia")
- Sticks & Stones (Cavemen grunt, no speak! It Rock! (Hey, I just invented the pun!))
- Scairy Tales (Fairy Tale Land gone horribly wrong)
- Dragon Kings (King Arthur comes back sometime in the future and trades his horse for a Harley!)
- Savage Deadlands: The Weird West (a.k.a. Deadlands Reloaded)
- Evernight: The Cradle of Midnight (The epic sequel to Evernight)
- Weird Wars: Weird War II (tentative title, World War II Savage Worlds style)
- Empire of Bone (Zombies and humans living side by side in a cool gothic fantasy world)
- Weird Wars: Unholy Lands (tentative title, the Crusades Weird Wars style)
- Great Rail Wars (Spiffy new Savage Worlds version)
- Savage Deadlands: Hell on Earth (a.k.a. Deadlands Reloaded II)
- Savage Deadlands: Lost Colony (a.k.a. Deadlands Reloaded III)
Also on the FAQ were products that were "mere rumors or not in production yet." Apparently they were all mere rumors because not a single one saw the light of day:
- Takanak City Tales (Savage Pulp Action setting book)
- Forsaken (Modern-day Techno-horror-thriller)
- Lost Angels (Monster hunting in the city of Lost Angels in the Deadlands universe)
- Weird Wars: Wilderness Wars (Pre-USA Colonial America wars)
- Blood Moon (A "gothic" apocalyptic world where a piece of the moon has crashed into the Earth.)
- For Hive Queen And Country (super-duper top secret, no info)
- The Big Book of (Insert Popular Author's Name Here) (Mys-teer-ious!)
- Crime Does Not Pay (Golden Age superheroes) - unofficial title.
- Fortune & Glory (Another Pulp book, details are scarce) (Ravaged Earth covers concepts of CDNP & F&G, so they may not actually come out)
- Weird Wars: The Boxer Rebellion
- Weird Wars: Blood Feud (American Civil War)
- No Man's Land ("A surreal post-apocalyptic setting in which a massive alien being landed on Earth and changed the planet and even reality itself.")
- Bones ("Mobsters and hitmen against the forces of darkness in the ultimate den of sin: Las Vegas in the 1970's").
- Deep Black (Disavowed superspies struggle against the forces and schemes of F.E.A.R.)
There were a few Savage Tales listed as well that were upcoming:
- Necessary Roughness ("An awesome SWAT team adventure, featuring the Oakland Raiders!")
- Night of the Chupacabra ("A cool adventure for Deadlands that wraps up a couple of old threads.")
I'm sure that the products that didn't make it were cancelled for good reason, most likely because they weren't as good as the other titles that did eventually get released. Regardless, I just think it's interesting to see what things might have been.
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Enno Veteran

Joined: 29 May 2006 Posts: 525 Location: Ulm, Germany
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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A real pity, that some of these products never made it (at least in the form advertised), but that's the way dice bounce and priorities change. _________________ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who know binary and those who don't. |
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kronovan Veteran
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:56 am Post subject: |
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| Color me surprised that Weird Wars - Blood Feud was never created. You would think a Civil War setting would a sure hit for this system. I'm very glad they did WW Tour of Darkness though, so I won't complain too much. Weird Wars - Boxer Rebellion would be a complete hoot - really wish that got made too. |
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Thunderforge Veteran
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe they thought a Weird Wars version of the Civil War had too much overlap with Deadlands? _________________ Wild Card Creator: Any PDF. Any Setting. No Extra Cost.
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arkcaver Seasoned

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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:44 pm Post subject: Re: Blast from the Past: Official Settings that Never Made i |
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| Thunderforge wrote: |
Sticks & Stones (Cavemen grunt, no speak! It Rock! (Hey, I just invented the pun!)) |
This is Rob Lusk's Sticks & Stones webpage. Rob hasn't posted to say what the status of the project is; if I remember right Jeff Valent Studios, who published the mini game, was also going to publish the RPG. But since Jeff Valent Studios closed up shop I haven't heard anything new about the status.
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Scairy Tales (Fairy Tale Land gone horribly wrong) |
I'm sure everyone knows that this one has been posted for free (if not, the thread is HERE).
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Empire of Bone (Zombies and humans living side by side in a cool gothic fantasy world) |
Last year Randy Mosiondz , the author, started work on the setting again. His blog is HERE.
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Takanak City Tales (Savage Pulp Action setting book)
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A preview of the setting was released as the third Savage Tale.
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For Hive Queen And Country (super-duper top secret, no info)
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Terry Sofian, the author of this setting, has released this his webpage Hive Queen and Country using a different system.
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The Big Book of (Insert Popular Author's Name Here) (Mys-teer-ious!)
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If I remember correctly, this is Solomon Kane and (Insert Popular Author's Name Here) should be substituted with Robert E. Howard
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And the FAQ says that there was a Smilin' Jack Bust that was sold at one point  |
I found a small picture of the bust HERE |
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kronovan Veteran
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:12 am Post subject: |
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| Thunderforge wrote: | | Maybe they thought a Weird Wars version of the Civil War had too much overlap with Deadlands? |
Hmm...well I wouldn't know personally as I don't own any of the Deadlands setting. I was always under the impression that it was set in the Weird West, far west of the ACW battlefields. Is there much in the DL setting that covers the Civil War? |
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ValhallaGH Legendary
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:06 am Post subject: |
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| kronovan wrote: | | Is there much in the DL setting that covers the Civil War? |
Yes. _________________ "Got a problem? I've got the solution: Rocket Launcher."
"Not against a Servitor."
"... We're all gonna die." |
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Pariah74 Veteran

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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:20 am Post subject: |
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Slipstream, Low Life, and Rippers did come out...among many others on that list.
In fact, if you look at the products released vs the ones that fell through there's a pretty good track record. Compared to other companies it's an exceptional track record!
And I would guess being good or not had little to do with it, and it more about other factors like personnel changes, creators backing out, finances, etc. The idea that they were not as good as the ones that did get created assumes a finished product exists. Likely it doesn't.
The idea was good enough to get approval in the first place, so it's unlikely that they would allow the project to continue to a finished result and then not publish it because it didn't meet some standards. A more likely scenario is that the person who believed in the project, and was working on it got tied up in other projects, possibly with other companies. These things happen. _________________ "Games give you a chance to excel, and if you're playing in good company you don't even mind if you lose because you had the enjoyment of the company during the course of the game. "
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| kronovan wrote: | | Hmm...well I wouldn't know personally as I don't own any of the Deadlands setting. I was always under the impression that it was set in the Weird West, far west of the ACW battlefields. Is there much in the DL setting that covers the Civil War? |
You're correct, Deadlands is set in the "Weird West" and scenarios are almost always set west of the Mississippi, but the Civil War still plays a large role in the background of the setting. For instance, weird stuff first started happening at the Battle of Gettysburg when the dead soldiers of both sides rose from the dead and killed their living comrades. As a result, the Civil War didn't end for another 15 years and eventually petered out with both sides calling a truce and the Confederacy still existing. There were two supplements for "Back East" describing the North and the South in the Deadlands universe and the effects that the prolonged Civil War and the increase in monsters and other weirdness had on each region.
I'm not aware of any Deadlands scenarios that actually take place during a Civil War battle, but a character can be a soldier for either side or a secret agent "monster hunter" for either side. There's certainly a lot of things a Weird Wars: Civil War could cover that Deadlands doesn't, but there are a lot of similarities.
| Pariah74 wrote: | | Slipstream, Low Life, and Rippers did come out...among many others on that list. |
I'm aware that they did, I just figured I would show the whole list of products that were upcoming at the time. And you're right, there was a pretty good track record. _________________ Wild Card Creator: Any PDF. Any Setting. No Extra Cost.
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operations Seasoned

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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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Forsaken sounds pretty cool actually. _________________ ~~KT~~ |
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VonDan Legendary

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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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| you notice that except for Empire of Bone (which has nice zombies) none of the canceled projects had zombies. The quickest way to get a savage worlds project canceled is to tell Shane there are no zombies in it |
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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| VonDan wrote: | | you notice that except for Empire of Bone (which has nice zombies) none of the canceled projects had zombies. The quickest way to get a savage worlds project canceled is to tell Shane there are no zombies in it |
It may not say zombies in the description, but there were zombies in some of them. Trust me, I know.
As far as the thread goes, it's always nice to have a reminder of exactly why we don't talk about upcoming projects anymore.
And yeah, I have one of the Smilin' Jack busts at home.  _________________ Clint Black
Savage Worlds Core Rules Brand Manager
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Cutter XXIII Legendary

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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Clint wrote: | | we don't talk about upcoming projects anymore. |
The first and second rules of Pinnacle Club.  _________________ Matthew Cutter
Deadlands Big Bug (Brand Manager)
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ironfort Novice
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:08 am Post subject: Re: Blast from the Past: Official Settings that Never Made i |
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Evernight: The Cradle of Midnight (The epic sequel to Evernight) |
Argh - I have players wanting a sequel. |
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scourger Seasoned
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: Blast from the Past: Official Settings that Never Made i |
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| Thunderforge wrote: | - Weird Wars: Unholy Lands (tentative title, the Crusades Weird Wars style)
- Savage Deadlands: Hell on Earth (a.k.a. Deadlands Reloaded II)
- Savage Deadlands: Lost Colony (a.k.a. Deadlands Reloaded III)
- Weird Wars: Wilderness Wars (Pre-USA Colonial America wars)
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Those are the ones I would have liked to have seen. |
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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I'm pretty sure that HoE:R is in a pipe somewhere... _________________ "I had a whole bunch of advice for you but got ninja'd by newForumNewName. I'd just do what he says." -- 77IM
"While nFNN could be less of a jerk about how he says what he says, what he says is essentially correct." -- ValhallaGH |
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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Hell on Earth Reloaded is supposed to be coming out within the next 6-9 months I believe and Cutter made a topic a while back about the possibility of Lost Colony Reloaded, although he said it would be years away.
And I too would have liked to see Weird Wars: Unholy Lands. All those pictures of crusaders in Savage Worlds Deluxe make me want to play them! _________________ Wild Card Creator: Any PDF. Any Setting. No Extra Cost.
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Jose Seasoned

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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:37 pm Post subject: Re: Blast from the Past: Official Settings that Never Made i |
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| ironfort wrote: | | Thunderforge wrote: |
Evernight: The Cradle of Midnight (The epic sequel to Evernight) |
Argh - I have players wanting a sequel. |
I want it too! |
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Cutter XXIII Legendary

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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:08 am Post subject: Re: Blast from the Past: Official Settings that Never Made i |
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| Jose wrote: | | ironfort wrote: | | Thunderforge wrote: |
Evernight: The Cradle of Midnight (The epic sequel to Evernight) |
Argh - I have players wanting a sequel. |
I want it too! |
From the 2009 Update of The Making of Savage Worlds:
| Shane wrote: | | A draft of Evernight II was written by BD Flory, but we changed the way we do books since then and it would require significant rewrites that are no fault of the author’s. We’ll get to it one day though—promise! |
_________________ Matthew Cutter
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chugosh Veteran

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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:31 am Post subject: |
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| I'm still stoked to buy a pdf of Sticks and Stones if it ever comes out. I've always dug the cave man adventure idea, even if none of my regular players do. Then there is the irony of buying a pdf about stone age adventure. |
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