Great White Games/Pinnacle Entertainment Group

[Lord Lance]

[Timon]

Some good advice there. Sean you are right about the hit and damage - my brain-damage was playing up again. I was already going ranged, but, I had forgotten Military Training and 3RB. Hell, the guy at the back can add an aiming round. I have no problem scattering drones in front of him, though I might have the Ktharen tank and the Drones snipe from behind them.

Loremaster, I like your thinking on the background. I could have a V'sori turn up with a remote that turns off all the devices, supplied by the father who is now brain-controlled, cyborged and working in a V'Sori weapons lab.
He would need to find the lab and "deal" with his father. Should be a guts (umm Spirit) roll in there somewhere...

Thinking this through a bit more, the only real issue is that in the previous session the other players did not get a chance to shine.

I have been thinking about this the wrong way.
It is not about zapping the munchkin, it's about supplying challenges that are fun for and adapted to the other players: doing my job as GM.
I need to make the non-melee parts of the game important and exciting.
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[TheLoremaster]

[Pariah74]

Not to sidetrack or detract from those saying story/hindrances are a good way to go after him (because those are probably the most interesting) but I had another thought.

All of his device powers seem to come from metallic devices. How would he fare against Magneto?
Metal Control might be a great way to make him feel the sting of the GM.

Yank that sword from his hand, or just turn it into a wet noodle. Make his armor fall apart.

Maybe work this character into his hindrances...is it his father? Is it a financial rival?
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[ValhallaGH]

Aim, plus Three Round Burst.

+4 attack, and +2 damage.

Even with his Deflection up, that makes it a TN 4 shot. Without that power (say, in the Surprise Round), it's a TN 0 shot. Easy-peasy.


Marksman and 3RB can be used every single round. Just need a HW with a 3RB setting - like a plasma rifle.
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[Timon]

Can't roll out Magneto and I have to say that the Material control power in NE is kind of weak - all the cool stuff you expect of it is actually covered by other powers.

Zapping-wise I am fielding Ktharen troopers with blaster rifles - 3RB and military training already gives +4 to hit and +2 damage, aiming would make it +6 to hit.

That said - I shall start adding some depth to the NE plot, the hard part being to keep it light-hearted...
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[Pariah74]

[marshal kt]

AoE attacks don't have to target him..say a building next to him, the bridge or highway overpass he's under.

drop a building, or parts of it, on most anything, will slow it way down.
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[Theta]

I thought it was possible to Phase in and out with extra action and repeat action.

I once had 3 munchkins in one NE game and they had in order an undying undead brute who was immune to everything, a mad scientist with ungodly high intelligence, mind control, and extra action who oneshotted every boss, in between phasing in and out on the appropriate action, and a biohorror created by said mad scientist who just wanted to make his father proud, he was just a slightly faster crowd control version of his father.

Amazing roleplaying when they weren't breaking the game though.

That aside you might give people facing him 2 target eyes and a laser sight on a blaster rifle on a 3RB setting for say a k'tharen thats a + 5 to hit without aiming or not moving with this loadout (+9 if all are done which is enough to always get an armshot at 30 doing at least 3d6+2 overpenetrating his armor and most likely making him drop his sword which will cost him his action and possibly deactivate it). A K'tharen commander could fire from 50 away on full auto at + 5 with 3D12 + wild die shooting with massive damage and armor piercing for quite a while. It just gets worse if he starts back peddilling (Which he does almost as well as your munchkin runs (No K'tharen fight like that, it is way out of character.)) If they were a little less tribal and a lot less honerable they would be much better soldiers.

Your right though the best solution is to make sure every player has time in the limelight and enjoys playing the game. Besides if he's built for combat he should be good at it.

[Cutter XXIII]

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[Cutter XXIII]

[marshal kt]

I played in a game Clint ran. My SS used the intangible power. Clint's final word was, while intangible nothing can affect you & you can't affect anything.

He didn't say anything physical or mental only or disclaimer.
You affect nothing.
Nothing affects you.

Pretty much sums it up.
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[Pariah74]

You only need to pop out if the Mind Control fails tho.

So yes, it works. The circle is NOW complete.

Seriously tho, just think it through. Why would he go intangible if he's mind controlling the threat? He only needs to pop out (which he can do as a free action) if he breaks free of it, and once he's controlled he's stuck until the controller forces him to do something suicidal or hurt a companion.

I wouldn't call taking off your armor and laying down your weapon as one of the reasons to get an attempt to resist.

So once he's disarmed he's virtually powerless. This is basically a method of attacking the hindrances of his powers. Yes, a viable and fun method is to attack the character's hindrances, but can't we both be right?
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[Cutter XXIII]

[Pariah74]

Sigh...You're not gonna budge huh?

I only suggested that phasing allowed it to be a free action, when you said they couldn't be used simultaneously. I'm sorry my reply wasn't clear, but I said that he could pop in, mind control and pop out, meaning to say that he didn't need to do it simultaneously.
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[Boldfist]

[Pariah74]

You know...for a character that likes to hit things and has First Strike and Level Headed you can send an Absorber of kinetic energy after him. Let him wail on a guy who transfers that damage to strength. Give him a d12+x in fighting so he can hit back and waltz him right up to the munchkin. He'll shout out, "First Strike" and wail away, and then watch in horror as the enemy grows muscles from the damage.
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[Timon]

@Boldfist
happy to oblige - just don't tell the player how he could make this build more fearsome...
Blade build (metacreator export)

I like the ranged ideas - though the Ktharen would not be able to back-pedal fast enough - Blade has pace 12. This discussion has also inspired me to broaden and deepen the non-combat side of the game. That's the value of challenging players - they make you a better GM (eventually )

In the meantime the player (=my 12 year old son) has been idly developing a new concept - a stage-magician character who produces 5 summoned rabbits with the telekinesis super-power level 6, gah.

That intangibility stuff, sooo many quotes - I just can't touch it...
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