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Crumbs · Novice Joined: 22 Aug 2010 Posts: 67

Watercraft rules are on page 100 but it looks like they removed falling out understandable since other than that they worked just like other vechicles. Haven't found capital ships yet though.

kreider204 · Heroic Joined: 19 Jun 2009 Posts: 1712

Crumbs · Novice Joined: 22 Aug 2010 Posts: 67

Because that was all that was in EE under the Watercraft section. It even says they are treated like everything else except for the sinking and falling out rules.

If you read the watercraft rules on page 112 of EE you see that the only thing missing in SWD is falling out.

I think the lack of capital ship rules is more to the point of streamlining the vechicle rules since other than the range adjustments and an few differences in the critical hits table they followed all the same rules. I do wish they had kept the critical hits from EE for capital ships though.

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Jonah Hex · Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:48 pm Post subject:

Kakaze · Seasoned Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 219

Well, Blast and Burst can now ace so they are a bit better. Blast can be pretty nasty in big battles with lots of little baddies. I'm in a veteran level fantasy game with a big war that's starting up and the mage has been using blast to some pretty incredible effects.

Of course, everyone is pretty incredible at this point. We have a dagger throwing character who has Dead Shot, Marksman, Ambidexterous, and Two-Fisted. He killed a dragon in one hit with a raise/headshot...

Good times.
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jpk · Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:25 pm Post subject:

To clarify a little misnomerage that's been going around in a few places discussing the recent changes:

"Acing" refers to rerolling and adding a die if it gets its top number. Pretty much all damage (except for Breaking Things) can and has always been able to Ace.

For most attacks, hitting with a raise provided +d6 Bonus Damage. This did not apply to Area of Effect attacks in the past. Now it does (unless specified otherwise for some particular reason, though I'm not currently aware of any).
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Talison · Seasoned Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 251

So what is the general rule about things that first appeared as setting rules, are now in the SWD book, and are a bit different now? does the main book supersede the setting book?

For example, the Martial Arts Edges appear in Space 1889 but are different than the new ones in the new book. Similarly, Space 1889 gives you half your smarts die in languages. The similar rule in the new book gives you that plus a free native language.

ValhallaGH · Legendary Joined: 25 Apr 2010 Posts: 4450

Talison · Seasoned Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 251

Yeah, in this case I am the GM, but I was thinking to have setting rules trump core rules so I guess I'm on the right path. That said, is the martial arts rules really a setting rule or just a rules revision?

Locnar · Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:05 am Post subject:

So here is a question: how many things in SWD affect Showdown? Or should they even?
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77IM · Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:21 am Post subject:

The martial arts stuff is all new to the core. So I'd say that if the setting book includes a lot of martial arts rules that those are probably better thought out for that setting and should be used instead (e.g., Iron Dynasty or Deadlands). But if the setting only includes like one or two edges regarding martial arts then maybe it's not such a big deal and would be easier to just replace them with the new core book edges.

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Talison · Seasoned Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 251

Well, my point is they are the same Edge names with the same requirements but different effects. But using the new Core versions to replace the 1889 versions seems to invalidate the Pugilist Edge in 1889

ValhallaGH · Legendary Joined: 25 Apr 2010 Posts: 4450

JackMann · Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:09 pm Post subject:

kreider204 · Heroic Joined: 19 Jun 2009 Posts: 1712

No more changes or additions?

Any chance a friendly neighborhood mod might sticky this?

EDIT: Sweet - thanks, mysterious but helpful moderator! Mr. Green

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steamdriven · Legendary Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 2091 Location: U.K

i like that guts is now a setting rule, great idea Smile

don't like some of edge names but that's not really a problem, just a personal thing Smile

the layout is cleaner, and is good on the eyes, the new art work is fantastic, what's with all the red armoured people? would like to know more! Smile

looking forward to buying a hard copy when it finally gets to the uk (most rpgs seem to get a bit lost and delayed getting to this fair isle, we are not hard to find, honest, just so you know, we're the funny looking island off the coast of france! Laughing

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Timon · Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:57 am Post subject:

And we are the flat bit north of France, where Amsterdam is.

Yes, what is the recurring theme with the (in my PDF) pink power armour? It looks like the Necropolis Spring Collection. Razz

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DerFinsterling · Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:56 am Post subject:

Really? Only one try at healing per healer? So no more three rolls with a success each to remove 3 wounds, at the cost of 30 minutes (leaving less time for the other wounded in the group)?

Any explanation on this change?
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Lord Inar · Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:50 am Post subject: