Great White Games/Pinnacle Entertainment Group

[JmOz01]

Assuming a character is human, and has gotten 5 xp

Strength d4
Agility d10
Smarts d8
Spirit d4
Vigor d4

Skills

Weird Science d8
Science d6
science d6
Shooting d10
Notice d8
Fighting d4
Stealth d6
repair d8

Edges
AB: Weird Science
---Bolt Power (Blaster Pistol)
Ambidextrous
Two Fisted

Hinderaces
Elderly
Loyal
Quirk


5 xp New Power: Bolt Second Pistol


Can I really Shoot off 6 bolts at no penalty every round?

[ogbendog]

yup. you'll roll 3d10 and a d6 per hand.

of course you have a 47% chance of getting at least one 1 on a shooting die, which means a malfunction.

you can use a bennie to reroll, of cource, but a bennie will only let you reroll one hand, if you get a 1 with your left and, and a 1 with your right hand, that's 2 bennies to reroll everything.

But then you can only do it for 3 rounds until you run out of power points.

[Wibbs]

With a quick glance, I have a couple of points...
- It's more than a bit munchkiny to take Elderly when your Vigour and Strength are already at d4 as it isn't really acting as a Hindrance in that case, but if your GM is happy with that.

You'll be a glass cannon who is easy to taunt and intimidate. Along with Toughness 4, and Vigour and Spirit at d4, expect to be shaken and/or wounded a lot of the time and have a difficult time removing the Shaken status.

EDIT: ogbendog makes some good points as well. The chances of a 1 on six dice are high, so you'll be malfunctioning ALOT, and you'll run out of power points fast.

EDIT 2: Removed blatently incorrect bits where I couldn't read properly

[Blackhawk]

Even if the number of skill points and Quickness can be explained with setting rules, this is a very focused character - ie, a 1-trick pony. Put everything into one type of action and you're fodder in almost any situation in which it doesn't apply.

[JmOz01]

Wibbs, look over the write up, he did not take quickness, he has taken Bolt twice,,,

the 1's is an issue (for a slipstream game not so bad actualy as there is another edge to take to help with that...)

[greyseerco]

While I don't see Quick (which either was editted out or he mistakenly saw Quirk as Quick).

Shooting 6 bolts with no penalty is a bit strong of a statement, there are plenty of penalties that can apply to shooting. But for base rolling of dice, that is correct.

While Wibbs is also almost correct, there are actually 20 skill points, I would point out Elderly gives 5 skill points to Smarts linked skills (Notice, Repair, and Knowledge) So I think this guy is legit, but also note he is going to be frail (a Toughness of 4 is asking for wounds left and right) and he is going to be slow when it comes to getting in and out of a fight.
Now if you allow all sorts of modern science armor and shields and jetpacks to over come these hindrances, I would consider making Elderly a minor instead of a major hindrance.

[JmOz01]

Just so everyone knows, this in no way is an actual character, but rather an exercise in abuse, something I like to do at times so I can see possible weaknesses in a system. Or in otherwords, as a game I like to break the system to see,,,

[ogbendog]

As my post said, each round you do it, you have about a 50% chance of losing a gun.

and the malfunction has equal chance of:
2d6 damage in a large burst template (and there you are with a puny toughness of 4)
breaks, can be fixed with 2d6 hours of work
breaks, fixed with a repair check of -2
does reverse of the intent (suggestion for a weapon was fires at a random target)

you can only do it for 3 rounds, you have a 15% chance of doing it without a malfunction. At the end of 3 round, each gun has 1 shot. It'll take 9 hours for them to fully recharge

So it's not very sustainable.

[Wibbs]

Dear me, I really shouldn't post on forums late at night

Yeah, basically ignore my previous post. For some reason I read Quirk as Quick......Oh, and the skill points are correct too with the perk from Elderly. Basically ignore my entire post *gets coat*

[raikenclw]

[Zadmar]

[ogbendog]

The build is the epitomy of a Glass Cannon

[Sitting Duck]

[Kakaze]

Shooting 6 times a turn is broken, hah! You haven't played Deadlands with my posse. There's a ranger I know who can do that every round. With one pistol. With a bonus to the roll. And it does relic damage.
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[Vinzent]

If one of my players took the Elderly Hindrance and left his Vigor and Strength at D4, I would reduce those to a value of d2. Congratulations munchkin, you are wheelchair bound and don't have the strength to lift your own guns.

I had a player do this in Necessary Evil. He wanted his villain to be an old crotchety guy from the Silver Age. Until he drank his Jeckyl/Hyde potion he was a wheelchair bound invalid. And Yes, he had to buy up his super Vigor and Strength at a d4.
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[ogbendog]

Rules say drop do d4, minimum of d4.

As someone pointed out, not being able to raise a stat above d6 is a -3 hindrance. Not being able to raise 2 above d4 would be at least -6 if not -8.

I'd leave it alone. They have 5 extra skill points, and are highly vulnerable to damage

[Snate56]

I think it's more or less a payback for trying to get around the Elderly penalties.




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[Vinzent]

Not just payback, common sense. A Hindrance should always be a hindrance. You build your character as to what he was at his prime and then you overlay the Elderly penalties. If, at his prime, the character had a strength and vigor of d4 then he was weak and sickly at his prime. Age has turned him into an invalid.

Also, my players don't see it as a punishment. They see it as a challenge.
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