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jpneok · Novice Joined: 21 Sep 2010 Posts: 56

Also, how are you coming up with these creatures? Are these from existing toolkits or settings or supplements or from other games? Are they for a particular reason or just a general "we need a main monster list"?

re dice: that does make some sense, hmm...

Zenguy · Novice Joined: 13 Aug 2007 Posts: 20

Snate56 · Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:52 am Post subject:

Ahh, but a die roll of 1 is a failure regardless of how many plusses you have.

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Lord Lance · Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:16 pm Post subject:

Woah, what a traffic in this topic! ;P

Ok, you said enough about "+1" and "+1 step", so I wouldn't add more.

About the "reason" for the bestiary: ask to Butch Curry, the creator of the original file, but I think it's about "we need a free, main monster list for our D&Desque games".
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Snate56 · Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:19 pm Post subject:

Acknowledged.
I discounted the wild die because it's on both sides of the equation.
And with the "+1" equaling the increase in average you get when you add a die type, one of the changes are the odds regarding rolling a 1 on the Attribute/Skill die.

SteveN

EDIT: Aaa! Sorry Lord Lance, your right, I forgot where I was! Embarassed

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jpneok · Novice Joined: 21 Sep 2010 Posts: 56

Well again sorry for derailing the beastiary topic - I asked and then got offtrack about my project then realized what this thread was, so again, I'm sorry, but thank you to all the people who have replied, including the Admin, who ought to know better. =D

Like I said before, I really am impressed with this document, I can see it being quite a compilation (it already is, obviously), a very valuable resource for GMs, and of course, my favorite price! Are you going for anything in particular, a theme, or breaking it down into categories, or stopping at a certain point, or what?

Lord Lance · Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:24 am Post subject:

Mmm, I would happy to simply finish the update / retune of the original file (it was simply in alphabetical order). So I don't think I'll create sub-sections, themes etc. (however, as you can see, in this "bestiary" there are Dinosaurs, Killers, Demons, Aliens, Dragons ... It's quite omni-comprehensive, from fantasy to pulp to modern-conspiracy).

Of course, the file is fully free, so if someone with nice web skills want to take the creatures and put them in a website with filters for categories, themes etc. it would be fantastic!

PS: Clint can/must we include the Savage World Fan product in the file? With some legalese text included?
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jpneok · Novice Joined: 21 Sep 2010 Posts: 56

I hate to somewhat derail once more, but Fan License? I've written things for warhammer and am writing a document for Feng Shui, so I'm sort of familiar with producing CC stuff for games, so what's this fan license?

Zenguy · Novice Joined: 13 Aug 2007 Posts: 20

Lord Lance · Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:05 am Post subject:

Ehi guys, please check the new, super useful, super funny "BOSS TEMPLATE" that you find in the first part of the file.

I need to know if I can better write the phrases, 'cause - you know - english is not my 1st language.

(and please, use it against your players in your next adventure!!!)
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ValhallaGH · Legendary Joined: 25 Apr 2010 Posts: 4455

Toughness: +5 (+2) - 2 from increased Vigor (unless he's above d12), 1 from increased size, 2 from increased armor.
Edges: What is the Fear edge?
"Boss evades your cowardly ranged attack!" - Cool.
"Boss feels no pain! - The Boss is Hardy and takes no wound penalties."
"Boss knows no fear" - so, the Strong Willed edge?
"Boss hates bookkeeping!" - Funny.
"Boss is a Pro - Boss may take a second action at no multi-action penalties. Also, he may ignore all off-hand and similar penalties. [Existing and cool examples]"
"Boss is the big one! - Size +1. If he's already big, check for Large/Huge/Gargantuan"
"Come get some! - Foes gain no Gang-Up bonuses against the Boss."
"Muahahahah! - When Incapacitated, the Boss explodes! This may be a final activation, a dead-man switch, or whatever trappings are appropriate. All within a Large Burst template take 3d6 damage (Agility at -2 to avoid the blast) of an appropriate trapping (fire, acid, radiation, etc). This does destroy all the Boss's gear."
"Armor: +2. The Boss's existing armor improves (or he now has armor)."
"Weapons: +1 damage. The Boss has better weapons, which deal +1 damage." - +1 step is harder to work with, explain, and doesn't always help out (Snake Eyes on damage rolls). This way, it's a smaller bonus but always improves the damage total. Feel free to go back to what you had before.

Overall, pretty cool. Over-the-top, but Boss monsters are always supposed to be a bit over the top.
Did that help?
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Lord Lance · Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 3:35 pm Post subject:

Thanks ValhallaGH! Some note was useful, I did some modification. However my primary concern is about the construction of the phrases, I like the short descriptive/flavor text intro in the abilities! Smile

Finally, I don't want to contract a Boss ability to a simple "Strong Willed" 'cause I want the Boss abilities better explained (as you can see in Fantasy Companion, often the monster ability is fully described so you don't have to check the base manual every time) AND in some case, like this one, if I want to name an ability in a different way: USUALLY different abilities stacks, so a Boss could have Strong Willed as normal edge AND "Boss knows no fear!", getting bonuses from both. About "Boss evades your cowardly ranged attack!", that is a sort of Deflection power trapping, and I want it stacking as for the others. I hope I explained my choices about that template.
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Zenguy · Novice Joined: 13 Aug 2007 Posts: 20

Lord Lance · Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:51 am Post subject:

starting "T" mosters are done!
Now you can throw some T-T-T-T-Troglodyte to your players!
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Shadowdragon · Seasoned Joined: 12 Dec 2004 Posts: 390 Location: Canada

This is coming along very nicely. It's interesting to see different takes on creatures that exist in other books, like the Fantasy Companion. Regarding the Oil Beetles, I'd suggest getting rid of the Agility roll to avoid the oil stream. The Shooting roll already assumes the target is trying not to get hit. Or you can make it an AoE attack, like a cone template, in which case drop the Shooting roll and just have the target make an Agility roll to avoid the oil.
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Lord Lance · Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:20 am Post subject:

Yeah Shadowdragon! As you can see, I highlighted that ability 'cause I'm not convinced by the original writing. So, when I have time and/or cool illuminations, I'll read the document again and make some changes.
Of course I love to get advices from other users, 'cause this is a quite open project.

Finally, I'm trying to "harmonize" the abilities and the writings between the various creatures, 'cause I think there was a lot of minds behind the old document. Where I can, I remove the "custom" created abilities with specific rules (maybe derived from d20 ruling), and I bring back the "standard" SW mechanics.

EDIT: check out the new Oil Beetle ability Wink

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Lord Skudley · Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:56 pm Post subject:

This is some good stuff Lord Lance! I've used this document before but had forgotten where I got it. Thanks for the updates.

BTW I'm using the MIB's in an upcomming game, I even made some Minis based on the idea.
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