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Sean Patrick Fannon · Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 2:29 pm Post subject: Savage Rifts?

Has anyone taken on the task of converting the "Rifts" setting to Savage Worlds?

I know there's not going to be a "public posing" of such, due to not wishing to get into trouble with the owner's feelings about public distribution of conversions of his stuff...

... but if anyone has already tackled this rather herculean task, I would be ever so grateful to see what you came up with.

Seanpatfan {at} gmail ::dot:: com for private exchange.

Thanks in advance!
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Demonicuss Krinn · Seasoned Joined: 12 Apr 2004 Posts: 159

I was dinking around with savaging some of the Rifts material, and the only things I thought of was this:

That whole "Multi-Damage" thang - Just replace MDC with Heavy Weapons/Armor.

Cyborgs and Power Armor/Robot Pilots (and probably Sparkly Lad Suit Pilots are in there too) - I'm reading the Sci-Fi Toolkits for inspiration and aid, trying to think of what works the best.

Technowizards - use AB: Mad Science. Maybe try to make up a somewhat more detailed system (like classic Deadland's Mad Science or HoE's Junkers - or something like Low Life's Weapon Creation System) to allow players some more creativity in their creations.

And that's pretty much it. The more "iconic" OOCs of Rifts (you know, the Juiced Ones, the Deadpool Reenactors, and Those Magic Walkin' Dudes) are hard to convert to Savage rules. But yeah, feel free to keep me in the PM/email loop.

Strickland5 · Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:42 am Post subject:

supercOntra · Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:35 am Post subject:

If you try the old "convert the feel not the rules" it's no big deal since SW is made to be generic. I think most has been said already.
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Demonicuss Krinn · Seasoned Joined: 12 Apr 2004 Posts: 159

To Strickland: Re - Juiced Ones, and other "races"
- To me, I think it's hard to do the OOCs because I can't figure out a decent Savage Way to do their most recognizable bits - The Juiced get their augmented Strength and Vigor, but they're dead within five years. Same with the Madmen, the stronger they get, the more nuts they go (maybe this could be a penalty to Spirit and Int that increases as they go from Seasoned to Vet as such?). The Walkin' Dudes seem pretty easy, but how to accurately portray the "bonuses and perks" they get once they start "Walking" a Ley Line?

I don't have the books with me at the moment, I'll try to figure something out later.

Yuri · Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:45 pm Post subject:

Hee Hee! Are you doing what I think you are Sean?

Hee Hee!

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Strickland5 · Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:30 am Post subject:

dentris · Seasoned Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 372

I've done quite a few things for this conversion. If i can find my notes I'll send you a e-mail with what i got.
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pneumonica · Seasoned Joined: 17 Mar 2007 Posts: 136 Location: Nowhere

While I admit it's a technical truth, I don't think it's quite appropriate to have the Loose Juices with the Addiction Hindrance. Since they have instant access to their drugs du jour whenever they feel like it, it doesn't really count as an Addiction.

Now, if they ever try to get off the Sauce, the Addiction becomes a really intensive replacement to the Short-Lived Hindrance for the next several games. Maybe require a Guts roll every game, with a failure meaning they go back to being a Juicy Fruit. Accumulate the number of successes and raises that they get - once they accumulate some large number (say, 20), they're off the OJ.

If you want to penalize them with withdrawal symptoms, a -1 penalty to Strength and Vigor rolls might do it. Maybe dock Wild Cards a benny as well.
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insomniac009 · Novice Joined: 24 Feb 2006 Posts: 21

I have a Palladium Robotech conversion that covers mecha pretty well. It's been revised to take the Savage Worlds Sci Fi Gear book more into consideration and I think it's pretty elegant. It should work on Rifts too.

It can be found at-
http://savage-gamer.wikispaces.com/Savage+Robotech

supercOntra · Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:45 am Post subject:

tylermo · Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:07 am Post subject:

Hell yeah! Savage Rifts. Can I get those notes, as well?

Demonicuss Krinn · Seasoned Joined: 12 Apr 2004 Posts: 159

Dentris, might as well be a pal and email me those notes you did, as well.

Sunsword · Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:03 pm Post subject:

Could I get in on those notes too?

Mr. Green

dentris · Seasoned Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 372

Just send me a pm with your email adress.
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dentris · Seasoned Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 372

Just a little info about those who asked for my conversion. I'm at my parents' house for easter, so I don't have access to my computer and therefore my Rifts file. I'll send it tho those who sent my a pm as soon as I come home Monday.
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But the Voice consoles me and it says: "Keep your dreams;
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opey2dope · Novice Joined: 24 Jan 2008 Posts: 20

one thing that comes to mind....the parent game (Rifts) uses a system of damage that is incredibly bombastic; normal gunfights level towns and punch craters in mountains, as the base system is written. Keep that in mind with any conversion.

Now personally, I hate that idea, and throw it right out the window. In my games, the multiverse of Rifts is more like Shadowrun or Star Wars in its level of technology; advanced, but not so ridiculous.

Demonicuss Krinn · Seasoned Joined: 12 Apr 2004 Posts: 159

Like I said in my earlier post, the whole "SDC/MDC" thing is easily replaced by substituting MDC with Heavy. Simple, quick 'n easy.

dentris · Seasoned Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 372

That's right. Some weapons are still incredibly powerful, but not as much as in the vanilla game.
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dentris · Seasoned Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 372

I send it to those who gave me a PM, please give me comments. I want to know what you think.
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But the Voice consoles me and it says: "Keep your dreams;
Wise men do not have such beautiful ones as fools!"
--Baudelaire, Les Fleurs du Mal, 1857, Translated by William Aggeler, 1954