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PencilBoy99
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:07 pm    Post subject: Learning Savage Worlds Combat Reply with quote

Is there an extended description/example of Savage Worlds combat somewhere? I'm just not getting it (I'm sure it's the head injury or medication or something) from the explorer's guide.

Apologies if the example is in the list already - I tried a search but did not find it.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What don't you get, exactly? I can give you something quick but specific questions are easier to answer.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And there's also a combat assistance PDF and a flowchart PDF floating around somewhere on these boards, if that might be useful.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The core book (IMO) is a little weak in this department.

What I think he wants is something like what appears in the 'Fantasy d20' game where a group of heroes has a battle with a group of dungeon monsters and they battle it out for a few rounds, all the while giving examples of different parts of the game (init, movement, to hit/damage, spells, special actions, skill rolls, etc.)

I don't know of any off the top of my head of a step by step combat example. Anyone else?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, thanks. That is what I was looking for - you see them in many game books. They have a sample of play where the characters fight something and go through a sample combat. I don't know that I can ask any useful questions since I don't quite understand anything except initiative.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted some examples on my web page a long time back. They have not been vetted but still, they may at least give a place to start asking questions.

http://home.earthlink.net/~djackson24/Delbert6a.htm
Examples of Applying Savage Worlds Rule System

An Example Combat - Morusai hi Ujjain and The Bandits
An Example of Non-Combat - Banyu's Escapade
An Example of a Chase - Arrested!
An Example of Fatigue's Effects - Tabunta's Trail
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a nice bit of combat there, GreenTongue.

A few comments, though:

This example still uses the old Damage system. Under SWEX rules, the bandits' spears do Str+d6 Damage (2d6 in their case) and Morusai's enchanted battle axe does Str+d8+2 (2d8+2 in Morusai's hands). Also, Morusai does no longer get to roll a Wild die for the Strength portion of his Damage roll.

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Beginning the encounter with a "Test of Wills" the sides establish their identities to intimidate their opponent. While this is optional, the effect is worth the effort though it does not last until the next turn.

Yes, it can last into the next turn. The bonus gained from Intimidating an opponent lasts until the opponent's next action. Whenever that may be...

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The bandits all have a Spirit of d6. Because their leader is Intimidated they need to roll to decide to attack.

This is not part of the official SW core rules.

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The bandits are Average with d6 in Fighting and since there are two of them they get a "Gang-up bonus" of +1 for each additional attacker over the first.

Their spears' Reach would allow the bandits to attack while staying 1" away from Morusai. But they need to move into direct contact to grant each other the gang-up bonus. Only additional enemies adjacent to the target grant this bonus, not everyone that's attacking.

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Morusai decides to expend one of his "Bennies" to eliminate the "Shaken" instead of waiting and rolling against his Spirit. This choice must be made BEFORE any next action is resolved.

Not quite correct.
Under the old rules, the Bennie had to be spend before attempting to un-Shake with a Spirit roll.
In SWEX, you can even wait until after the Spirit roll and still spend a Bennie to un-Shake if you don't like the result.

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the Trick and Attack count as two.

At this point I was wondering "which Attack?" until I found it mentioned in the following paragraph.
If you wish to perform multiple actions in one round, this must be stated before rolling any dice for any of these actions (because all dice rolls will be affected by the Multi-Action-Penalty).

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The unShaken ones will perform the Defend Option (giving a +2 to Parry).

Note that the bandits could not Defend and Run in the same Action, so if the archers had not cut them down, both of them would have been left within Morusai's Pace distance. This would have allows Morusai to easiliy catch up with them (or at least one of them, if they were retreating in different directions) to attack them again.

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Though the Bandit Leader makes his escape by using the Joker to increase his Pace for running. His d6 roll of 4 was increased to 6 (the max).

Where did the bandit leader suddenly get a Joker from?
And how could he use it to improve his running distance?
A Joker grants a +2 bonus to Trait and Damage rolls, but Running is neither...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the vetting, been quite a while since I reviewed it.
Guess I'll need to update it with corrections.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GreenTonque,

Perfect or not, this is a really helpful post and file. I've bookmarked it myself and find a lot of value in it. I learn by example, and while I love pretty much all things SW, the relative lack of examples (yes yes, I know Virginia and Buck are sprinkled about, but even PotBS uses the same examples reskinned) does make it a bit harder to visualize.

If you updated your file to the new rules that would be fantastic, but even in it's present form, aces to you!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you. That is what I was looking for.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just what I needed too. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Greentongue,

Any interest in updating your great description as a Shark Bytes article?

- Marc
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't think it was That great but if you would like ...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Inar wrote:
Hi Greentongue,

Any interest in updating your great description as a Shark Bytes article?

- Marc


GreenTongue wrote:
Didn't think it was That great but if you would like ...


You could possibly add some pictues using some of the community maps and tokens made for VTs?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Updated the text. No graphics added at this point.
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