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[oss1ncrp]

So I have tried to cantact Mr. Hopler via Shane and have been informed he is no longer with Pinnacle/GWG. So anyone out there know - Is the West the only place that there are full-on, honest to G! humans? The campaign that I'm involved in has the question opened.

Simply, it appears that the western US and a VERY few survivor settlements East of the Big Missup are the only living/breathing souls left on Earth. Does this appear to be the case? Was this what would have been made plain had Pinnacle continued to produce HOE?

Wondering mostly in terms of Canada (and where the heck are those darned Mormons) and Mexico to S. America. Cool stuff you can play with in both directions. While thinking that way, Legion's Newfoundland book intimates the info could be used in an HOE setting. Thinking about old powerful sorts, it would be fun to play out of Rome, Greece, Russia or EGYPT! Just wondering if the original design team had even speculated whether there were survivors anywhere else.

[Asmodai]

Actually that's a wrong impression. Quite like Deadlands there is stuff happening all over the world. However the games are American west centric and that's where most of it does happen...

The Reckoners went on a rampage through the biggest and largest cities and concentrations of people on Earth. Once they were done they moved on. So wherever there are rural or out of the way places there are settlements, and there are possibly even some larger cities that were left untouched by the Reckoners for this reason or that...

But as Pinnacle focused on the Weird/Wasted/Outta the Way West there was never much need for actual game material detailing the rest of the world. (They did get to Canada and the american east in Deadlands Classic through)

Canada is huge and has a a lot of settlments all over that are not very connected with large cnetres that were nuked and/or visited by the Reckoners so it's fair game... however do count in that there are quite probably mutants and walking dead all over the largest population centres...
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[oss1ncrp]

BD Wrote:

We don't have any plans to cover areas outside the Wasted West, for the record. Might happen a *ways* down the road, but not for quite a while, if ever.

BD, you wrote 'we' - are you the official word for the Deadlands stuff. Thought I have been heavily involved with Pinnacle, the switch to GWG and the lead switch from Shane to Sparky have passed me by. Are you now the line editor or whatever title they are now bestowing at GWG for Deadlands and specifically HOE?

Also, from your response, are you basically saying that in Hopler's original plans, the rest of the world was messed up, but was still there similar to the west - just wasn't going to be covered in any depth? NOT, that it was basically completely dead or a walking zombie land like the inference is that the East is?

Thanks.

[BDFlory]

[Psykoguy]

There have been several references to survivors outside of the west. For example, in Brain Burners, when discussing a couple of sykotropic drugs, the books mention that they're easier to aquire in the settlements in Asia. Also, on a section talking about ComSat, they mention that stations around the world reported that the rest of the world was as bad as the west. Don't forget that Cyborgs also talks of Mexico, and Iron Oasis talks about the Mormons up north. Waste Warriors also talks about the ship that a number of English soldiers took to go back home, so even if the country didn't survive, i wouldn't be suprised if a settlement popped up from there.

The rest of the world is pretty messed up, but there are people there, the big 4 need us as much as we fear them.
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[SlasherEpoch]

Austrailia, Kamchatka, the Vatican, Malta, Easter Island, lots of Africa...any place with low density or high spiritual/conspiratorial connections would be okay.
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I personally pity the folks on the Moon and Mars. They might have been able to figure out a method of surviving despite the disconnection with Earth. Add to that the Space Ships out in the Belt.

It's already been stated that the folks on the Space Stations are dead dead dead. Sometimes they're still moving, but they're dead.
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[Asmodai]

[Noshrok Grimskull]

Ahem... "Unity"?

Maybe not by their own power (what with them being now trapped in physical bodies that cannot fly), but if they found a functional spaceship/rocket/UFO/whatever, sure, why not?
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[Asmodai]

[oss1ncrp]

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[Psykoguy]

The hunting grounds DO encompass everything, the reason they were transported to Banshee is because they're relatively powerless there.
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[Sean]

Acctualy we here in Karlsruhe Germany thought about playing HOE here in Europe, but it showed up as to much work.

We first thought which areas got the most Damage from G-Bombs, which areas might have been spared (and why?) and what the Apocalypse might have done to the enviroment at all.

As for the arcane Backgrounds:
Think about the movie Indiana Jones and the holy Grail - the Grail and some knights may still be around and forming a Group similar to the Templars (but more like the "Knights of the Round Table") - we also had many other Knigthorders wich have vanished in europe (and some suppose they are still out there and hiding)

It may even be possible that some Muties found out on their own how to use the power of the Glow - so there might be Doomsayers there as well.

Sykers are no problem as an arcane Background, as they where common in Europe in pre-war times as well as in America.

We though that maybe some native religions might have also been able to contact the nature Spirits like the Old-Way Indians. (Celtic Druids for example - think about Miraculix in Asterix). Think also about big nature spirits supposed to inhabit the black forest (Unicron, wyvers).

As for Junkers: think about the techspirit of the first car lurking around Mannheim

Some other questions about locations in Europe:
Where is Atlantis?
Where is the insle with King Arthur (and his adviser Merlin) - who is supposed to appear again when his people (the britains) need him most. (also the same is said about Barbarossa - Emperor of the "Holy Roman Empire German Nation").

What has happened to Holy Citys like Rome or Jerusalem (which is not in Europe but still close enough)?

We even thought about our home city Karlsruhe which may have sufferd less damage in the war because of its arcane protection from a pentagram designed by the freemansons (take the 4 Bigest Churces of Karlsruhe and the castle and conect them).

Another thing is that some of the old bunkers after WW2 might still contain some Nazi stuff (i know at least one which isn't accessible - but is supposed to be still intact even after all the years [it got evacuated in the last days and the entrances blown - but in a HOE cenario who knows?])

Also there are a lot of egyptian artifacts spread all over europe - and all the egyptian mummies still lying around there may also be sources of adventures.

[Kain A. Ashburner]

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[Mort]

[Mort]

or of course

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