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Fuzyfeet Seasoned

Joined: 07 Sep 2005 Posts: 361 Location: Gilroy, Ca.
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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Nice program. I played with (as far as I know) all the Junker programs out there (even wrote one once) and this one is really on the ball.
I like the look, most, including myself, always made theirs not so visually appealing. My reason was simple (and it could be the same as the others) which is always 'make it work, then make it pretty'.
The interface is not as intuitive as I would like for most. It took me five (or so) minutes to figure it out, so I know there would be some people that would probably not get it or give up after a few minutes. That said I like that is has more information than maybe needed, 'too much is better than not enough'. The drop down view works well.
Two things I'd love to see, a label over the power window so it could be easily identified and maybe one bellow saying "right click window" or something. Also some way to output the information. Even if it's a text file that would rock. _________________ Ju Ju
Just my $0.02
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Edivdrone Seasoned

Joined: 22 Sep 2007 Posts: 233 Location: New England
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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:39 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Snap_Dragon"] | Quote: |
What really inspired the automatic bullet press was the time it took one character to reload a whole slue of casings used in one gunbattle.
Also since it is described as a supernatural madness I wonder if the syker power (peace of mind) would work on clearing it up (at least the early stages). |
As to Peace of Mind, while it would work, it would be dangerous. The gun spirits are involved here after all, and don't want to lose their pawn. Trying to remove levels of Taint would work along the lines of trying to remove levels of a Harrowed hindrance, with the gun spirits getting more vicious at higher levels.
I would recommend trying to find a Blessed character(there aren't many of them, but they are out there), and ask them to use Solace on the Tainted Junker. It would take longer (about a week per level of Taint since outside forces are involved), but it would be the better(and safer) chance of actually reducing Taint. The Divine can get away with a lot after all. _________________ I can do all things through Christ who stengthens me. |
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Edivdrone Seasoned

Joined: 22 Sep 2007 Posts: 233 Location: New England
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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:52 am Post subject: |
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| Snap_Dragon wrote: | Ginsu Knife
It's said that the first junker to build one of these was inspired by
an old infomercial he saw on the net.
The Ginsu Knife is a combat knife that can slice right though items
such as: radiator hoses, aluminum cans, frying pans, and combine
automations. The secret is its ghost steel blade only a few
molicules at its edge! The Ginsu Knife is kept sharp by its tech
spirit so it never needs sharpening.
The ginsu knife is part of a limited time offer so call now to get
yours, our gun spirits are standing by to take your order!
Frame size 1 (7/7) slots
Weaponsmith
Size 1 knife
Damage (STR) + 1d6 AP5
DB +1
Speed 1
AP 5 consumes all 7 slots
Spitfire SMG
The spitfire was invented by a junker who was tired of flattening all her 9mm ammo against armored vests or some of the more stubborn horrors of the reckoning.
She realized that if she could encapsulate her bullets in a bubble of burning hot plasma she could but a regular 9mm bullet through just about anything.
The Spitfire is a 9mm SMG with its own built in variable plasma weapon. While gunsmith provides the punch of the weapon, flash gordon adds the AP. The user can scale up the armor piercing for harder targets or turn it off to save power.
Frame size 2 (15.6/16) slots
Gunsmith
Damage 3d6(9mm slug)
Ammo size: 0.3
ROF: 6
Speed:1
Range Inc: 10
Clip Capacity: 24
Slots used: 9
Flash Gordon
Damage 1d6
Ammo Size: 0.1
ROF: 6
Range Inc: 10
Slots used: 1.6
Drain:0.2 per shot
Extra Drain: 0.2 per AP per shot*
extras
selector switch 1 slot
32/gr spirit battery 4 slots
Weapon Info
Damage: 4d6 (3d6 from the buttet + 1d6 plasma + AP)
ROF: 6
Speed: 1
Range Inc: 10
* notes:
The cost for the armor piecring was based on the cost of a 4d6(the total damage of the weapon) energy bolt rather then the cost of the 1d6 plasma weapon. The selector switch can set the AP value from 0 to 4 or turn the plasma function off entirely.
a full list of drain costs follows
3d6 = 0/gr per shot (slug only)
4d6 = 0.2/gr per shot (slug + plasma)
4d6 AP1 = 0.4/gr per shot (slug + plasma + AP)
4d6 AP2 = 0.6/gr per shot
4d6 AP3 = 0.8/gr per shot
4d6 AP4 = 1/gr per shot |
I think the gun spirits must be getting to me, 'cause the second I saw this I thought, "You could throw hollow point or frangible rounds in that and get some truly sick damage."
Additionally, is the plasma visible? If it is, it would work like tracer rounds. _________________ I can do all things through Christ who stengthens me. |
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Snap_Dragon Seasoned

Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 303 Location: Between the minute and the hour
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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yes the plasma is visible but it might not leave a tail long enough to be counted as tracer rounds rules wise. Ask your GM if they feel like being generous. _________________ "If this were a perfect world I wouldn't know what a rat tasted like"
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Sitting Duck Legendary

Joined: 15 May 2003 Posts: 4559 Location: Podunk Junction, State of Confusion
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Edivdrone Seasoned

Joined: 22 Sep 2007 Posts: 233 Location: New England
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Snap_Dragon wrote: | | yes the plasma is visible but it might not leave a tail long enough to be counted as tracer rounds rules wise. Ask your GM if they feel like being generous. |
Tracer rounds have just a small amount of magnesium on the back; they don't really leave a trail either. So I am pretty certain that a plasma round gets the same benefits as a tracer. _________________ I can do all things through Christ who stengthens me. |
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Snap_Dragon Seasoned

Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 303 Location: Between the minute and the hour
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Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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For balance reasons I'd say that the spitfire effect would not stack well with frangible rounds or AP, since whatever the slug hits has already been hit with superheated plasma. I'd rule that the higher of the ap applies (ammos or the energy) as with frangible I'd say highest damage of the frangible +2 per die or the plasma's apply. _________________ "If this were a perfect world I wouldn't know what a rat tasted like"
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Snap_Dragon Seasoned

Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 303 Location: Between the minute and the hour
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Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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Cyberhorse
The good ol' horse and saddle has made a comeback in the days after the apocalypse. They don't require gas or spook juice, they work well off road, and if winter is a bit too long they don't taste too bad with a lot of barbaque sauce. The only drawbacks of these noble animals is that they're often outnumbered by the amount of horses under a car's hood. Then a former veterinarian turned Junker found a clever way to give his equestrian friends a hoof up over their gas guzzling opponents.
Cyberhorses are just regular horses with a bunch of junker parts swapped for some of their squishier bits. Tack on some hydrolic legs, and and a couple of new organs and you have a horse that could outrun all but the fastes wasters, abominations, or vehicles.
Corporeal: D:1d4, N:2d12, S:2d10(4d12+4), Q:1d8,
V:2d10.
Fightin’: brawlin’ 1d12, swimmin’ 4d12
Mental: C:2d6, K:1d6, M:1d6, Sm:1d6,
Sp:1d4
Guts 2d4, overawe 1d6.
Pace: 20
Size: 10
Wind: 14
Terror: 0 (5 when angered)
Special Abilities:
Damage: Kick (STR+2d6)
Description: This horse has been heavily modified from it's original condition.
Biomechanics
Cybernetic Legs
Each cyberhorse needs 4 cybernetic legs w/ high speed pistons. They cost 4.5k each or count as a biomechanics device with a frame size of 4. The legs give it the ability to run like the wind when in dire straits.
Cyber organs
A proper cyberhorse needs to swap out its heart and lungs for something with a little more power. These cyber organs cost 2k for the heart and 1k for the lungs, alternately you can build them as frame size 2 devices made with biomechanics. The heart halves all wind damage, and the lungs allow them to run for ages without tiring.
Internal bracing
Those who want their steel steeds to have super strength require internal bracing to stop their bones from breaking. This only needs to be done to the torso but costs 1k or counts as a frame size 2 device.
Super Strength
Samson System
This system boots the horses strength to a whopping 4d12+4 but costs $750 per limb or counts as a frame size 2 device built with Super Strength.
Brains
Brain Booster
Horses aren't the smartest of creatures, especially when you don't know how to ride them. This implant remedies the problem by augmenting the horse's intellect with a computer which fills in for the rider, and stores three commands to help nudge the horse in the right direction.
Processor: 3d6
Skill Slug: 1
Command Slug: 3
Slots: 10 (2 cyber slots)
Drain: 2/gr per hour
Other considerations
One problem you'll run into is how to power you're new broomtail 2.0. There are bunch of ways to do it but I recommend using oversized spirits or browsers.
If your marshal allows it you could install a soul tap which would net you 4/grs but even with this you might need a little extra. Another thing to consider is the cost, since I went with book prices you might want to ask your marshal to cut you a break as horses are much larger than humans and probably don't need all the miniaturizing junker cybernetics for humans need. You could also try including armor, weapons, or spirit batteries with your new horse if you have the time or inclination. And Marshals imagine how your posse will react to seeing someone on a cyberhorse, if they like the idea they might even go out of their way to get one for themselves. _________________ "If this were a perfect world I wouldn't know what a rat tasted like"
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Snap_Dragon Seasoned

Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 303 Location: Between the minute and the hour
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:10 am Post subject: |
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I've been away for awhile so here's a Templar special
The Collapsing Shield
Junkers and Templar have a bit of an odd working relationship, some of the more sensible Templar know enough to bring any junk they find to the techno-shaman in their posse and in exchange the Junkers do their best to drag the Templar's weaponry into the 21st century. This isn't always easy as they always have to look humble for that whole test of worth thing, but a good Junker loves a challenge. Given the whole 'knights of the apocalypse' thing the Templar had going it was only a matter of time until someone tried throwing together a shield. One which would keep the Knight safe at long range until he could get up close but could still be efective in combat. Coat of arms or Templar cross optional.
The Collapsing Shield is a large enough shield to cover the chest, shield arm and thighs (50% leg coverage), as well as the weapon arm of the wielder should be keep it behind him. When done the shield can collapse down to fit in a frame size 2 carrying case.
The shield provides a defensive bonus of +3 (+5 when fully powered) in melee combat, and protects against attacks from the front.
Frame 4(53.6/54)
Armor
AV 4
Slots: 21.6
Shelter
Collapsible
Slots: 5.4
Drain: 4/gr per use
Weapon
Extra Speed(+2 defensive bonus): 2 levels
Slots: 21.6
Drain: 2/gr per round
Extras
Power Jack: 2 slots
24/gr spirit battery: 3 slots
The Energy Shield
The best way to get around carrying a bulky shield is to not carry around a bulky shield. I know that might sound difficult but when you have a host of tech spirits on your side you can make it work.
The Power Shield is a small metallic bit of junk with a handle on it, someone might mistake it for a door handle torn clean off a door. What they won't know is it contains inbuilt shield generator, and when activated it produces a crackling energy shield to protect its wearer. The shield itself is a frame size 4, flat shield large enough to cover the chest, shield arm and thighs (50% leg coverage), as well as the weapon arm of the wielder should be keep it behind him. Some flasher Templar have asked to have the energy projectors of the shield modified to produce a luminous red cross over top of the shield.
Frame 2(16/16)
Sheild
AV 4
Frame Size 4
Flat Shield
Slots: 4
Drain: 2/gr per round
Weapon
Extra Speed(+2 defensive bonus): 2 levels
Slots: 6.4
Drain: 2/gr per round
Extras
20/gr power pack: 2 slots
power jack: 2 slots
The Gunblade
The problems with being a Templar is that you have to look like a vagabond enough to fool people for the test of worth, but still pack enough firepower to get the job done. The Gunblade is an attempt to hit the right balance between firepower and plausibility that you're actually a poor refugee like you say you are.
The Gunblade looks like the single worst rifle ever made by human hands, the clip and blowback assembly from a scavenged hunting rifle, a barrel that looks like it was taken from two different guns and soddered together and held to a two by four with a series of belts and zip ties, and a stock and trigger which was jury rigged from a motorcycle handlebar. To the outward observer it doesn't look like a piece of junker tech, more like a piece of junk that would explode if fired. What they don't see is that the weapon is perfectly servicable, and even better conceals a chainsword within it. When the handle is pulled the chainblade is drawn from its hidden scabbard in the two by four. Unfortunately when the blade is drawn the rifle can no longer fire as it requires the trigger on the chainblade.
The gun uses the stats below, for the chainblade use my stats for the updated chainblade.
Frame 3(30.75/31)
Gunsmith
Ammo Size: 0.6 (3d8 rifle round)
Range Inc: 20
Rof: 3
Ammo (clip): 15
Slots: 15.25
Minor flaw (cannot fire with sword drawn)
Extras
Deadspace (for chainsword): 15.5 slots _________________ "If this were a perfect world I wouldn't know what a rat tasted like"
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Snap_Dragon Seasoned

Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 303 Location: Between the minute and the hour
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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*sigh* neglecting my own thread again. I'll post something in a bit _________________ "If this were a perfect world I wouldn't know what a rat tasted like"
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Janibala Novice
Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Posts: 19
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 1:52 am Post subject: |
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Hoverboard (Inspired by the Back To The Future Hoverboard)
It is truly weird that the stats for this is not here yet. Or maybe I missed it. Anyways, here is the legendary "Back To The Future" hoverboard.
There are some technical difficulties:
- Drains quite a lot of G-ray per hour, but I guess you could make a Spook Juice variant of this too, but it would take some space for the tank. I needed all the extra space.
Frame 3 (30,95/31)
Power: Locomotion
Associated Spirits: Car
TN (Power 3 + Size 3): 6
Components:
Chemical: 10% 3,1
Electronic: 10% 3,1
Mechanical: 30% 9,3
Structural: 20% 6,2
Step 1: The Chassis
Frame Handling Load Limit
3–4 +4 2
Step 2: The Suspension
Hover 30% slots = 9,3 slots
Max Speed for hover vehicle of size 3-4
75
Step 3: Powerplant & Fuel
Acceleration Slots
5 mph (slow) 15% = 4,65 slots
Fuel
G-ray 3/hour (5/5 + 1,5 = 2,5 which is rounded up = 3)
Step 4: Passengers & Cargo
The rules would have to say, that this build is impossible, because even an open spaced vehicle for Size 6 person would require 35 slots. But I think this is not needed, because you only need space for footholds. Basically, you are ON the hoverboard, not IN it. If the size of the hoverboard is increased to “legal” limits, it would have to be almost human sized, which would make it hard to carry around. Of course, if a few tricks like Miniaturize is used, the problem is solved.
Footholds: 14 slots
Extra:
Powerpack (30) 3 slots
Used slots: 30,95
Free slots: 0,05
And of course, this could have a Minor Side Effect: Can not fly over water (Even though Hover vehicles normally can. It is just a tribute to the original movie). |
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Shimwee Novice
Joined: 24 Nov 2008 Posts: 15
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Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:09 am Post subject: |
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| I think the thing with the hoverboard is this: ok you stand on top of it, that's all OK, but if I remember correctly the board only hovers by it self and has absolutely no way to speed up unless you put your foot on the ground and push it, or you grab on to something that's moving. So instead you could everything in the ways of speed to make it faster and think of a set of rules based on nimbleness that wil allow you a dieroll and depending on how good you can push it with your foot, it will accelerate. Reapply for more speed, like a skateboard. |
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Sitting Duck Legendary

Joined: 15 May 2003 Posts: 4559 Location: Podunk Junction, State of Confusion
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Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:29 am Post subject: |
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That's just the case for the one Marty used, which was a kiddie model. IIRC (as it's been a while since I've watched BttF2) Griff had a powered hoverboard. _________________ The rabbit is cuddly. Kids like little cuddly sidekicks. I mean-- The rabbit-- It's a time-tested-- Okay, the rabbit bites.
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Janibala Novice
Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Posts: 19
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Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:29 am Post subject: |
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Well the manual pushing could be a major side effect, but it would require some thinking ruleswise to make etc...
Of course your Junker can make his own variation. I was just trying to contribute to the thread. I will post more devices when I actually get something ready. I have way too many projects that are huge (Virtual learning machine is another big one). I guess I should minimize the new devices to a power or two.
Btw, if there are any houserule powers/tricks your junkers have, they might be helpful to the thread (or make a new one for them). I've already seen the Extradimensional Space, Irradiate, Life-support and Enviro. I'm quite sure someone else has made something too
Even theories of new powers would be nice too. |
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Shimwee Novice
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 3:59 am Post subject: |
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| @ sitting duck: that could very well be. I also haven't seen the movie in ages too. |
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Shimwee Novice
Joined: 24 Nov 2008 Posts: 15
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:35 am Post subject: |
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I was checking out the El Dorado-belt that someone had posted, with a fellow junker here a while back, tried to recreate it but I couldn't quite figure out how it worked, with the fetter, since I coudn't find any data about how it works to include it in a device, so we came up with something new:
Hollographic-Stealth Suit.
It works kindof like the semi-stealthsuits that already excist in real life: a sensor captures the surroundings and in this case translates it in a holographic image that removes the wearer from sight by projecting an empty space where the wearer is standing.
Size: 3
Slots:31
Powers:
Commo
TN: 6 Drain: 4.5/h
Slots: 6.5
Properties: Video, Direct/Cable, 1 jack (for sensor), Standard Holographic
Sensor:
TN: 7 Drain: 2.5/h
Slots: 12.5
Properties: 4d4 rating, 100 yards, 360 scan, basic sense |
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ScooterinAB Seasoned
Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 480
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:59 am Post subject: |
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El Dorado Belt. That'd be me. A Spirit Fetter takes up 5 slots in the device, and is constructed as described in the marshal section of Cyborgs.
As for the Holo-Suit, you might need a simply brains program/AI to edit the image. Seems like a complex task that the sensor/commo mix might not be able to handle itself.
ALso, you may have residual light generated by the device, but that's up to the marshal. _________________ 28/12/09 Scooter just bought a Deadlands book... In a Japanese Gaming store... And the clerk knew what it was. Awesome. |
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Wendigo1870 Veteran

Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 962 Location: Gym-Wood, Belgium
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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I'm surprised no-one asked for these to be converted yet!
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_3_crafting
Now for another question; should anyone be able to make these (and other) devices with just tinkerin', or if not that, the Trade: Weaponsmithing aptitude?
If a logical explanation can be given why it should work without resorting to junker-magic? _________________ He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you.
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