Great White Games/Pinnacle Entertainment Group

[Jerome Sullivan]

Since the remodeling of the chase rules the "race aspect" of those rules went downhill. If I remember correctly, in "Through the cathode ray tube" there was a use of the old chase rules how to handle a good old styled car race.

I just want to ask: How do I handle a race with the new rules?

The possibility I came up with is the following:

For the sake of this example we have four participants. Each makes a roll apropriate for his means of transportation adding modifiers for speed or terrain or misc. This first roll is just to determine the starting position after the first rush (taken from TTCRT (Through the...)). In the next round the cards are as following:

Fourth: Queen of Spades
Third: Ten of Clubs
Second: Jack of Hearts
First: Ace of Diamonds

The first has the ace but since no one is out front he could try to force his opponents into a unadvantageous position. This might need a little creativity how to force the fourth in line to do something, the gm hast the last call whats reasonable.
The fourth has the advantage over the third and the second, but not over the first. He or she can try to pass the third, using a force maneuver. If he succeeds, the fourth is able to pass the third, with a raise the now fourth has a -2 against the new third.
The second one has the jack of hearts and is the next in line. He is not able to pass the first, but he's able to force the now fourth driver into an further unadvantageous position.
If the now fourth (former third) is still in the race after all he may not do anything at all. After a specified amount of rounds (five to ten) the race ends and the new positions apply as the finishing order.

I know this system is flawed, so I wondered if you have a more elegant system.

Another question that came to mind right now: If your force your opponent and get a raise, the opponent is affected as if he hit an obstacle. I wondered if you mean a minor or a major obstacle or if it's determined by his card just like if it were of clubs suit.

Thank you.

[Jerome Sullivan]

Just wanted to bump it once.

[amerigoV]

[Jerome Sullivan]

Well.. no

[WisestMongoloid]

Where do you find the old chase rules?

[ValhallaGH]

In the old SWEX (Savage Worlds Explorer's Edition) rules, and some adventure supplements.

Chases were split up into 10 "range increments" of a pre-determined scale (varied with the typical speed of the participants - fighter jets used a very different scale than bicycles).
A successful maneuvering roll advanced you one increment, two with a raise. Characters could "push" by taking a -2/-4 to the check to advance one/two extra increment(s). You could move up to 4 increments in one turn - and you could move both forward and back in the chase, as you desired.
Various things could also force you to fall back some increments (critical failure, being Shaken, failed rolls versus damage, etc.).
The Chase ended when one group made it past increment 10 (for a race-style scenario), or had at least 10 increments between them and the other participants (anyone 10 or more increments back had fallen out of the chase and couldn't continue).

Good rules for a race over a specified course, but not good for fleeing bad guys to your refuge of safety.
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