Great White Games/Pinnacle Entertainment Group

[wheatiess]

rate of fire in this game has always flusterd me just a little
3 shots takes 9 bullets
4 shots takes 16
5 takes 25(well thats an easy number but the others still annoy me)

1)
with no set way in the rules to put two seperate bullets down field guns have to either be burst fire or full auto with no inbetween. with a clip of 30 firing 3 full auto then 1 3round burst is annoying

2)
i have been thinking fire rate should go as follows

single shot as is
double tap as is (+1 dam and accuracy use 2
3RB as is (+2 dam and accuracy use 3

then

2 round full uses 5 bullets
3 round full uses 10 bullets
4 round full uses 15 bullets(should be 16 so either 15 or 20)
5 round full uses 25


3)
this came up due to the 40k conversion i am doing and bolters being a slower rate of fire than autogun and lasguns(certain ones) and i did play test it, not that it is a massive rule but it does work well. makes getting shot per mag eaiser to design and look after in a game that needs +15 mooks to kill a space marine(give them all{or each group} 3 tokens for a 30 round clip and always shoot on full auto)

4)
one gripe was wether 2 full auto should suffer the -2 full auto penalty( but seeing at this stage only bolters use the fire rate it would count as the increased recoil)

5)
has anyone used a conversion that does fire rate differently
inquisitor(d100 game) has - 10 for each shot so if you where doing 3 shots you would roll 3 times each with a -30 penalty
so firing
2 shots would be -2
3 shots would be -3
4 shots would be -4
and full auto rates around 10 become something akin to suppresive fire for which i cannot convert into sav worlds as the chance only lines up at skill die 8 and lower(6 is higher than 8 ) and go way to high from 10 up( love the website any dice)

(for eg. d12 has 75 percent chance of at least 4 and with the inqusitor rule set should have 75/5= 15 percent chance to hit with full auto. cant get them all to line up)
anyway this starts to break the Sav system and does not really go by FFF standards

so once again has anyone used a conversion that does fire rate differently but still stay easy or any feedback on the minor changes to fire rate

[farik]

I believe the question becomes does this level of complexity actually pay off?

[SeeleyOne]

I like to simplify the math to the nearest 5. Weapons that have full auto tend to have ammunition capacities that are divisble by 5 (if not 10). For ROF 3, it is 10 shots. ROF 4 is 15 shots. ROF 5 is 25 shots. ROF 6 is 35 shots.
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[Vinzent]

Or you could just use the blast templates. Small for 1/4 clip, medium for 1/2 clip, Large for full clip. That's a measure of the total clip capacity, no a percentage of what is left.
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[The Dread Polack]

I don't know how big of a deal this really is, but that has always nagged me a bit. If damage and area are tied to a percentage or fraction of your clip, then guns with small ammo capacities are what you want. There would be no reason to buy an extended clip unless you're firing in single-shot mode. You'll save money on bullets with a shorter clip.

Like I said, it's probably not a big deal, but it always bugged me a bit.

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