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Clash957 Seasoned

Joined: 04 Jul 2010 Posts: 227 Location: Tacoma, WA
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:24 pm Post subject: A different kind of Suppression Fire |
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As someone in RPGs tends to be the battlefield 'controller' type, I like the suppressive fire rules. However, I also wanted a technique that that would deny an opponent part of the battlefield. Here's my idea:
Cover Fire
Characters with a RoF: 3 or greater weapon with at least ten times the ROF in ammo in the magazine or otherwise fed places a MBT in the desired spot. The player the rolls their shooting with a -2 penalty (The Rock and Roll Edge negates this penalty). All opponents must make opposed roll as per suppression fire rules. Until the end of the round, the MBT remains. Any character attempting to take an action requires another Spirit roll. Any character wishing to enter the MBT template also requires a Spirit roll. The attack uses the weapon's ROF x10 in ammunition. A roll of a 1 on the Shooting die means the weapon overheated (with a chance of warping the barrel) or jammed.
Example:
Sgt Rook is trying to keep a squad of Nazis (6 of them) pinned down in a pill box with a M2 Browning machine gun until one of his allies can get into position to toss a grenade in. He wants to make sure that none of those jack-booted thugs can take a pot shot at the poor Private Pawn ordered to toss the grenade. He decides to lay down some cover fire rolling an 9. After the -2 penalty it is a 7. The machine gun uses 30 rounds this round, but since it is belt fed, Sgt. Rook isn't concerned with reloading anytime soon. All the Nazis roll Spirit vs. a 3 (they all have heavy cover). The Nazis roll as per Suppressive fire. One is hit, 2 Shaken but the other 3 have no effect.
On the Nazis turn most of the Nazis decide to keep their head down while Sgt Rook keeps the lead blazing. One of the Nazis notices Private Pawn moving in to throw the grenade. The Nazi decide to take a fighting stance and take a shot at Pawn. The Nazis cover is only medium and he has to make the Spirit roll at TN 5 (since he only has medium cover now) if he wants to get fire at Private Pawn.
Other than the tactic being a little complicated, can anyone see how it could problematic? I think it is rather balanced, it uses allot of ammo to perform (requiring a reload with most small arms afterward). _________________ Playing: Deadlands Noir, Planescape via D&D 4th ed
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ValhallaGH Legendary
Joined: 25 Apr 2010 Posts: 4475
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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Well, the writing is awkward and full of unintended oddities.
Example: Targeting Able Squad with Covering Fire will force every single foe on the battlefield to roll Spirit, even if they are 300 yards away from Able Squad.
And why is it (arbitrarily) limited to ROF 3+? Why can't I use a ROF 2 machine gun to provide cover fire?
With that in mind, I'd rewrite it like this:
Cover Fire
A character, with a RoF: 2 or greater weapon with at least ten times the ROF ammunition, may make a Shooting roll to place a Medium Burst Template within range. The roll suffers recoil, range, lighting, and cover penalties as normal, and can deviate if the roll fails.
All characters in the affected area must make an opposed Spirit roll, modified by cover. Failure of the Spirit roll means the character is Shaken. A 1 on the Spirit die means the character was hit by a bullet (roll damage).
The template remains on the field until the shooter's next turn. Any character in the template attempting to take an action requires another modified Spirit roll, against the original TN. Any character wishing to enter the template also requires a Spirit roll.
The attack uses the weapon's ROF times 10 in ammunition. A roll of a 1 on the Shooting die means the weapon has malfunctioned and requires a Repair check to get back in action. |
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MagusRogue Seasoned
Joined: 04 Jan 2004 Posts: 341
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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could just say Covering Fire requires an Automatic (as in the special weapon ability) firearm... _________________ Freelancer and Proofreader (check me out in the Noir books!)
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Clash957 Seasoned

Joined: 04 Jul 2010 Posts: 227 Location: Tacoma, WA
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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| ValhallaGH wrote: | With that in mind, I'd rewrite it like this:
Cover Fire
A character, with an automatic, RoF: 2 or greater weapon with at least ten times the ROF ammunition, may make a Shooting roll to place a Medium Burst Template within range. The roll suffers recoil, range, lighting, and cover penalties as normal, and can deviate if the roll fails.
All characters in the affected area must make an opposed Spirit roll, modified by cover. Failure of the Spirit roll means the character is Shaken. A 1 on the Spirit die means the character was hit by a bullet (roll damage).
The template remains on the field until the shooter's next turn. Any character in the template attempting to take an action requires another modified Spirit roll, against the original TN. Any character wishing to enter the template also requires a Spirit roll.
The attack uses the weapon's ROF times 10 in ammunition. A roll of a 1 on the Shooting die means the weapon has malfunctioned and requires a Repair check to get back in action. |
Yes, this is a much better written description of Cover Fire. You're right, I found a few machine guns with RoF: 2 that would have been excluded. As for the RoF of 3 or more, I was concerned that this tactic might be too powerful. I went to set a few restrictions to prevent abuse.
@MagusRogue, I'm not aware of any double-barreled shotguns with 20 round capacities, but you're right, the automatic special weapon ability would be required. I added to ValhallaGH's write up in bold
I'm more comfortable that this tactic is sound option for future games where such weapons exist. _________________ Playing: Deadlands Noir, Planescape via D&D 4th ed
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ValhallaGH Legendary
Joined: 25 Apr 2010 Posts: 4475
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:44 am Post subject: |
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| MagusRogue wrote: | | could just say Covering Fire requires an Automatic (as in the special weapon ability) firearm... |
Nope. Now you're excluding machine guns that don't have a single-shot setting. You know, weapons that were designed to only be used with automatic fire (rotary cannons, miniguns, etc.).
The Auto note says "this gun can be used in either fully automatic mode or in semi-automatic mode". |
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