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tigerguy786 · Seasoned Joined: 26 Nov 2011 Posts: 434

Exactly what the title says.

It really seems like it should be a minor thing. I guess -2 to shooting, etc is a big deal, but still it just seems to me like it should be minor not major, after all Snake Plisken did just fine with just one eye.

I think it should be minor if only because it's an uninteresting Major Hindrance. Most of them are key character traits except the One ____ ones, though all the others make sense as major hindrances.
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Sadric · Veteran Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 997

-2 to shooting is a major hindrance. And you could rule that it gives penalty to thinks like jumping and notice, too. Its very bad. I once played a one eyed halforc and the -2 was really a hindrance.

Its a "realistic hindrance".
If you like to be a badass Snake plisken then you dont tak one eyed, but your description says "wears a eyepatch, but get so used to it that i isnt a hindrance!" Smile

JackMann · Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:20 am Post subject:

Sean-Khan · Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:04 am Post subject:

The penalty is highly dependent on gm's judgement. I'd say that driving at high speed is definitely worth the penalty, but I don't know if it's true for riding. Perhaps GM could give false information like 'No, it's not difficult to jump over the obstacle, looks quite easy - you do it? Ok, it's larger than you saw, you get a -2.
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JackMann · Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:08 am Post subject:

Oh, and don't forget the charisma penalty. Sure, it's a small one, and can be overcome with an eyepatch, but that's going to color people's perception of them. Is he an outlaw? A pirate? Setting dependent, but important.

Basically, to echo Sean, how bad it is depends on the GM, just like a lot of other hindrances.

Snate56 · Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:21 am Post subject:

And Snake Pliskin would've had the Hindrance. He just had higher skills to compensate.

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Rohan · Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:23 am Post subject:

Snate for the win.
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tigerguy786 · Seasoned Joined: 26 Nov 2011 Posts: 434

Snake would also have Heroic.

OK, I guess that makes sense. I guess I'll have to play a character with One Eye to totally get it, but all right.
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Rohan · Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:37 am Post subject:

Recently ran a one-shot on our Monday gaming night and one of the guys built a blind shooter. He only missed once, I believe. He kept making Notice checks (had Alertness for hearing) and sort of zeroed in on enemies that way and then shot with a -4 penalty.

Things got crazy when he accidentally started firing into melee from 100 feet out with a .30-06....
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The Dread Polack · Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:20 am Post subject:

Coming from the HERO system, this is the sort of thing we think about all the time. "-2 to all rolls involving depth perception" would be worth a number of points based on how imparing it is and how often it comes into play. The value of the Disadvantage is determined at character creation, and depends on the character and the campaign. If your character is a gun bunny in combat & car chase -heavy campaign, its probably worth 50 points. If she's a scientist in a more story-based game, it might be worth 5 or 10. I think it's fair for a GM to declare it to only be a minor hindrance if the character doesn't take shooting, thorwing, or driving; and he knows the campaign will be about political machinations.

I think in the vast majority of the games we play, it'll be Major.

And Snake probably didn't take the hindrance.

ogbendog · Heroic Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 1916

Snake had the "Bad-ass" edge with the trappings of "Wears eye-patch"

marshal kt · Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:17 pm Post subject:

Snake could've also bought off the hinderance with a level up, earlier in his career.

As someone who's had eye problems, and has had limited vison in 1 eye. it's a major hinderance until you get used to it.

wear a patch for a week. try driving. put stuff on shelves. walk up & down stairs. throw a ball. shave.

you'd be amazed at how the little things seem tough all of a sudden.
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BadDecisionDino · Novice Joined: 19 Apr 2012 Posts: 33

Let's not forget that characters with the One-Eye hindrance are one bad roll away from losing the other eye and being slapped with the full blown Blind hindrance (and I'm not sure that you get the extra edge from Blind if you receive it through combat rather than character creation).

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JackMann · Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 5:22 am Post subject:

VonDan · Legendary Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 3252

The one eye Hindrance can be major or minor depending on the situation.

Can you imagine the major military disaster if the Egyptians had attacked from the left and not the right, Moshe Dayan would not have seen them coming and lost the battle

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