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[NinjaMonkey]

Just need to preface this with the understanding that using the old Chase rules isn't an option. My group wasn't a fan of them. I'm not a fan of them. I do however love the new Chase rules and we'd like to use them for the ship combat in 50 Fathoms in place of the old Chase rules.

Crossing the T I get with the new Chase rules. Have advantage and success on a Force manuever I would assume would allow you to bring half your cannons to bear.

And I would also assume that a Boarding action would just be Advantage and a successful Force manuever and throwing roll.

What I don't understand is how to apply the advantage for the Grappling Gun for boarding actions with the new Chase rules. Should I just give them a flat bonus, like +2, to their Force manuever roll? How would yall handle it?

[ValhallaGH]

Contact means the ships have spotted each other. Run as in 50 Fathoms.

Close Quarters means that the ships are finally in engagement range. Run a standard Chase (as per your core rules, Deluxe Edition in this case).

Boarding is a Force maneuver followed by a Group Throwing roll (+2 for ideal equipment is reasonable). Success ends the chase and begins a standard combat / mass battle (different Captains handle this one different ways).
Crossing the T requires a Force maneuver and being at Short range (King +). If you want this devastating trick to be more common then you can require a simple Force maneuver.

I hope those suggestions help some. Good luck.
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[NinjaMonkey]

Thanks that helps a bunch. I was ok with allowing the Cross the T manuever whenever they have advantage for 2 reasons. 1. The penalties involved can be pretty steep already, from -2 to -6 for the manuever AND the shooting roll based off range. 2. If its good for the PCs its good for the GM

[Harlan]

[MagusRogue]

Note that in the Explorer's Edition, some things have changed. Crossing the T is now a tabletop maneuver, requiring opposed Boating rolls at short range and the ship needs to be perpindicular to the opposed ship (note that the mention of a Force maneuver is errata). Guessing failure is just a broadside, allowing the other ship to return fire. Since the Chase rules in Deluxe deny people the ability to fire back if you have the advantage, pretty much assume that you're almost always crossing the T in chase, only your card determines how many cannons you're able to use.
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[Clint]

[tylermo]

I ran and played parts of 50F in the past, but never finished the plot point. Despite having played Savage Worlds since 2004, my experiences with vehicular chases and combat is limited. Maybe some original 50F boat battles. Starting 50 F for the gajillionth time, so I need to look at deluxe and my new 50 PDF to see how it works now. I'll keep an eye on this forum.

[Harlan]