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[Lord Karick]

Hi. Has anyone here ported from Dragon Warriors to Savage Worlds? I like the Legend setting too much to abandon but have more or less decided to carry on our group with SW instead of the original rules.
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[Spongly]

A friend of mine is starting the Elven Crystals in a couple of weeks, using Savage Worlds. I'm pretty sure he's just using the normal SW fantasy rules.

[Lord Karick]

[ValhallaGH]

The fastest way to do monsters is to look at their theme and build them from scratch.

Stealthy critter that clings to ceilings and falls on unsuspecting prey?
Agility d8, Smarts d4 (A), all others d6.
Climbing d12, Fighting d4, Notice d6, Stealth d10
Claws: Strength
Infravision
Go For the Throat (see the dog / wolf entry in SWEX)
Strangling tendrils: If it hits with a raise then it automatically grapples. Grappling attacks inflict Str+2d6 damage.
Death from Above: when dropping on a victim, it automatically targets the Head at no penalty.
Size -1

Utilizing the Drop, this creature can strike and kill most prey before it realizes that it has been hit. Took me about 6 minutes to do that.
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[Lord Karick]

[Planecreek]

Very atmospheric setting that one.

Hard to port directly as some concepts are somewhat different, and there are less "flavours" of combatants in DW.

very rough estimate:

:Attack score 11 or less: fight d4, 12 or 13 fight d6, 14 to 16 fight d8, 17 to 19 d10, 20 up d12. if their defence is higher than the normal 5 to 8 less than attack, give them the block edge. If their defence is much lower, usually drop the fight by one die( eg wolves with 15 attack, 3defence would be fight d6, not d8 as the above estimate first said). If they are missile attackers - give them the equivalent shooting or throwing skill.

:If they have an evasion score of 5 or 6 - give them the dodge edge, if evsaion of 7 or more- improved dodge.

:Reflexes to agility(and attributes for characters generally) 8 or less: d4, 9 to 12: d6, 13 to 15: d8, 16 to 17 d10 18 d12, 19 up d12+1 or higher. If they have a bad evasion or high evasion agility may be modified by a die type either way. If reflexes are very high, give them the quick edge as well.

:Magic defence. In SW some direct magic attacks tend to have spirit as the attribute for defence - so if they have magic defence of 7 to 9: spirit d8, 10 to 12 d10, if higher maybe give them the arcane resistance edge as well (and maybe improved if very high). If they have a magical attack score give them a spellcasting skill in proportion.

:If a DW creature has a high stealth then give them d8 plus Stealth skill, if they have a good perception then a d8 or higher Notice skill

: Armour and weapons - just use the equivalent in SW. Natural weapons are a bit trickier - maybe if they do 4 damage a hit they are St+d6 weapons (with St being d6 or d8), then scale either way from there (or use equivalent type creatures in SW.)

: for attributes in SW - for strength, vigour and size - try to look at equivalent physical creatures in the SW bestiary. Agility as above. Spirit base on magic defence as above. Smarts will need to be judged on the creature.

No idea if that was helpful, but if you are doing the crystals, here is a SW "dark rider".

Dark rider
Attributes: Agd6 Std8 Smd4 Spd6, Vgd8
Skills: Fightd8, Throw d6, Shoot d6, Notice d6, Ride d8
Pace:6(but usually on horse) Parry:7 Toughness:8(2), 10 vs missile
Gear: Chain armour(+2), Shield(+1 parry, +2 armour vs missiles), Sword (st+d8), bow(2d6) or spear (st+d6)
Special: Fearless
:Has ugly and bloodthirsty hindrances

[Lord Karick]

[Planecreek]

I would think that's pretty reasonable.
From what I remember - rank 8 characters started getting herioc/legendary type abilities - so rank 7 for start of heroic, rank 9 for the beginning of legendary seems okay to me.

You have me wanting to run all the DW adventures through SW now.

Added: there will be a few differences you will notice in how characters play in SW once ported from DW. eg for knights - armour in DW is very useful, SW has a lot more naked dwarf syndrome so your knights won't be able to stand up to as much (armour is very weak). Might wish to houserule armour value up a bit.

It would be hard for starting warrior characters to afford what they start with in DW without rich or noble edges (which you might take for knights I suppose). I think sorcerors, mystics and barbarians will port very well. Assassins with a little more work.

Advantages in SW is some of those characters that were forced into the above roles that didn't really fit (like the "barbarian" pirate captain in elven crystals) won't have to be forced - they can just be made with a lot more freedom.

[Lord Karick]

[ValhallaGH]

[Lord Karick]

[Planecreek]

[Lord Karick]

[GreenTongue]

Well, you could consider a setting rule that you have to have Armour Piercing weapons to hurt someone in metal armour.
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[islan]

Then nobody would use anything but weapons with AP.

[Zadmar]

How about a setting rule that heavy armour reduces your Pace and Parry by 1, but grants you the Hardy ability whenever you're struck on a covered location (i.e., it wouldn't work against a called shot through your visor).

Thus you're easier to hit, and getting hit still hurts, but it's more difficult to seriously injure you through armour.

[Lord Karick]

[GreenTongue]

[Planecreek]

[Jez]

Other than the formentioned advice, just get hold of the SW Fantasy Companion... got a great bestiary in there for ye!
SW is great for quick rules choices too... very intuitive system and all very logical!
Just about to launch into the Elven Crystals with my group soon, cant wait!
Luckily for me we play a few other games using the rules anyway, they are just so damn good for a fun night gaming!!