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[Lord Ben]

So if you roll Init and get 3 cards you can discard the highest one and use raising the pot to get several more init cards right away instead of waiting for your turn? YIKES!

A harrowed PC in the group has this and gets like 12 cards and can probably get straights/flushes pretty easily.

[thepilk]

i dont think that works.

because you dont "have" the action card to activate RtP with until the initive roll actually resolves, unless you had a sleeved card from the previous round.

[Cthulhu]

[Cthulhu]

[oddtail]

Cthulhu: um, I think your interpretation is utterly wrong. When you roll, you have the option to improve your roll. If you don't, and then draw cards, it's too late to improve the roll. Just like you can't spend Fate Chips on a Shootin' roll after you've rolled hit location.

In other words, nothing can happen after the roll if you decide to improve the roll.

And my take on things is that you can't even Vamoose to improve the Quickness roll, even IF you have a sleeve card from the previous turn. The roll takes place outside of the normal action sequence - there's a reason it doesn't require a card. You Vamoose in response to something that *happens* - so, takes place on a certain card. You can't Vamoose to improve your Quickness roll because it takes place at the very beginning of the round, before the Ace of Spades even. Heck, before the Jokers, even.

So, no.
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[Clint]

Oddtail would be correct.

Raisin' the Pot must be used before the results of the initial roll are resolved because using Raisin' the Pot can itself cause the initial roll to fail. You can't use the result of a roll to activate a hex that might make the roll itself fail.

Plus, as he noted, Vamoosin' specifically states that it must be used before the results are resolved. And since it's impossible to use an action during the resolution of initiative which determines actions, Raisin' the Pot can never be used with the initiative roll. This is why there is a specific hex to gain additional action cards, Draw!

Even if the Marshal did allow Raisin' the Pot to work on the Quickness roll, it wouldn't change the basic rule that a character can't have more than 5 action cards in a round. As has been covered before, magical or harrowed effects that adjust Quickness in any way do not change the maximum number of actions. Only abilities that specifically add actions do that.
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[Lord Ben]

That makes sense, thanks.

[Cthulhu]

Thanks Clint.

Heh...that line of logic was used on me many moons ago in one of my own games. Went with it and it never did any harm.

[Floyd Yoder]

So really the only way you can use raisin the pot on a quickness roll would be if you were a tempest, right? As it is you roll, spend a chip on the power, and then resolve.
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[Clint]