Great White Games/Pinnacle Entertainment Group

Targetlock · Novice Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 47

So do pump-action shotguns exist at that period, i haven't been able to find anything about it. i have a big fond spot for shotguns so any answers would help.

If not i will make it exist (queue mad scientist laugh).
_________________
Are you going to skin that smokewagon or whistle dixie?

arkcaver · Seasoned Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 233

Noshrok Grimskull · Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 12:21 pm Post subject:

Pump-action may not have existed in our history, but I seem to recall there was at least one of those in one of the Classic Deadlands books - Back East: The South or Law Dogs, if I'm not mistaken.

It worked much like a regular single-barrel shotgun, only it had 4 shots.

Oh, and if it's just ammo capacity that concerns you, than there's also the Colt Revolving Shotgun (with 6 shots) - which could be fanned if you were totally crazy! Surprised

_________________
"If you think I'm crazy, you should see the people I'm locked up with." - Steamdriven

"This is my timey-wimey detector. Goes 'ding' when there's stuff." - The Doctor (Doctor Who)

Targetlock · Novice Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 47

i'm not crazy..i just have an individual point of view Wink

_________________
Are you going to skin that smokewagon or whistle dixie?

marshal kt · Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:19 pm Post subject:

winchester 1894 is a pump action shotgun.. dunno exactly when it came out, but it's still available; as a replica by chinese makers and the originals; on gun broler.com. usually the model is the year it was released.
_________________
"I'm Hotep"

RJack · Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:48 am Post subject:

The Spencer pump action existed in 1882, so it's not even much of a stretch to have in the standard Deadlands timeline of 1880. Also, the Winchester 1897, which was a refinement of the 1893, was one of the guns worked on by John Browning, who has been placed in the Deadlands setting with his own factory outside of Salt Lake. Given the technological advancement of Salt Lake City, it wouldn't be out of place to have him providing the Mormons with pump-action shotguns (and other anachronistic weaponry).

Finally, a character in Canyon o' Doom uses a pump action shotgun, in the introductory scene (set in Salt Lake).

Targetlock · Novice Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 47

what does anachronistic mean? theres nothing stopping a mad scientist inventing it early i suppose.
_________________
Are you going to skin that smokewagon or whistle dixie?

Dodge City · Novice Joined: 29 Mar 2008 Posts: 38

Considering the fact that the Civil War dragged on as long as it did, its fully acceptable that weapon technology would be advanced by about a decade faster that it would have been. An example would be in Tales of Terror 1877, in which CSA troops at the 7th Battle of Manassas used weaponized chlorine gas against the enemy. Considering it really was weaponized by the Germans in WWI, around 1915 if I'm not mistaken, then there's nothing wrong with pump-shotguns coming out a few years early. Like the Chlorine Gas, it doesn't even have to be considered Mad Science, just a natural progression of weapon technology one would see during a war.

Just my opinion though.

Tuesday · Heroic Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 1067

NOESKANE · Seasoned Joined: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 365

Hello!

As far as I can tell, Deadlands is an uchronia* also.

My 1/2 cent
NEK

*Alternate history.

Targetlock · Novice Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 47

thanks for that now i know Smile

_________________
Are you going to skin that smokewagon or whistle dixie?

Noshrok Grimskull · Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:40 am Post subject:

And knowing is half the battle!

(Boy, am I spoiled by 80's cartoons or what?)
_________________
"If you think I'm crazy, you should see the people I'm locked up with." - Steamdriven

"This is my timey-wimey detector. Goes 'ding' when there's stuff." - The Doctor (Doctor Who)

Wendigo1870 · Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:04 pm Post subject:

It's even more fun when you see them as an adult now; you can laugh with it's silliness and more knowledge.

(Thunder, thunder, THUNDERCATS! HOE! (Why is he always calling a thundercat hoe Wink

? Pretty offensive for an 80's cartoon!))
_________________
He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you.
— Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil

Clint · Site Admin Joined: 13 May 2003 Posts: 16157

marshal kt · Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:15 pm Post subject:

umm.. yeah.

after talking to people who've shot them in RL, you better set a minimun str of D8 to shoot it...it takes a better than average str to work the action/lever.
_________________
"I'm Hotep"

Targetlock · Novice Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 47

nice find. thanks
_________________
Are you going to skin that smokewagon or whistle dixie?

Lord Ben · Seasoned Joined: 18 Aug 2005 Posts: 105

marshal kt · Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:50 pm Post subject:

really?
i was told that by several people at the match, all male all 6"+ when i asked if my wife could shoot it. 1 had one on hand but we didn't get chance to try it.

then again cocking it is a bit different when it's loaded.
_________________
"I'm Hotep"

Lord Ben · Seasoned Joined: 18 Aug 2005 Posts: 105

Was it new or antique? How many other lever action guns have you or the people who fire it shot? How did they try to work the action, did they keep it at their cheek or drop it down to their hip? Working it while aiming movie style is a lot harder.

They're all generally harder to work than people expect.

marshal kt · Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject:

they were both the new replicas and the older originals.

they are all experienced cowboy action shooters, with 10+ years experience, 1 with 30 years experience as a CAS. but more years than that shooting.

they've fired probably 30+ lever guns between them, and owned at least that many. i know 1 of them owns about 10 differnt ones in various calibers. [he has as many guns as i have minis, or so it seemed]

we shoot while aiming the gun.
both pump and lever.
_________________
"I'm Hotep"