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Sunwolf Seasoned
Joined: 22 Jul 2006 Posts: 201 Location: Pinellas Park, Fl.
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:44 pm Post subject: Disguise |
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How would you do it?
I can see using Persuasion, but that would fit more for convincing someone you are who you appear to be.
What if you’re just trying to blend in? Is that using Stealth to avoid being noticed?
Which leads to...
Master of Disguise (Edge)
Requirements: ?
Thoughts? _________________ First rule of SW conversions: Convert the Setting, not the rules.
Second rule, don't forget the trappings
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DaRealJudas Seasoned

Joined: 06 Sep 2008 Posts: 282 Location: Officially Bremen, Germany but mostly my own little world inside my head (soo peaceful & pretty)
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not sure if you'll need an extra Edge for that. You're right with the usage of Persuasion and Stealth so Thief and Charismatic will just do perfectly. _________________ "So, how much Experience do I get for the bard?" |
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Adam Baulderstone Seasoned

Joined: 09 Jul 2007 Posts: 315 Location: Waretown, NJ
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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I would say a straight Stealth roll would work fine for blending into a crowd.
As to actively disguising yourself, I would use Persuasion opposed by Notice. I would apply penalties based on the observers familiarity with the subject (between -6 to fool a close friend or family member, to -2 to fool a casual aquaintence). -2 is the default for the easy check, as it should be easier to give the Notice check an advantage. It should be easier to see through a disguise then to use one.
Obviously you could lower the penalties for a pulpier setting. You could also give bonuses if the disguised person has had time to rehearse the role.
The you can add edges to offset the penalties.
Disguise Artist
Requirements: Novice, Persuasion d8
+2 to Persuasion checks to Disguise yourself
Master of Disguise
Requirements: Seasoned, Disguise Artist
+4 to Persuasion checks to Disguise yourself.
This means anyone can make an attempt to disguise themselves, but you have to take edges to be truly good at it. |
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The Vulture Seasoned

Joined: 29 Aug 2006 Posts: 111 Location: At the Hotel California
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:00 am Post subject: |
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Something ought to be said for the quality of the disguise, particularly if you're just trying to escape detection in general. A fake mustache would be +1 to Stealth, while something real elaborate (false gait, haircut and dye, etc) would be more like +6. Just my thought. _________________ Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room! |
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Wendigo1870 Veteran

Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 962 Location: Gym-Wood, Belgium
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:41 am Post subject: |
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Depends on your 'disguise kit', which is like a tool kit. Without the kit, you're at -2 (like working without tools), but only when you try to look like someone else, not when changing your general appearance. With an ordinary kit (fake hair & moustache, hat & glasses, ...) you don't have a penalty. With a professional kit (used by spy agencies and the like, with fake skins/faces, lenses, ...), add +2 to +4, depending on the time spent changing your looks. _________________ He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you.
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Sunwolf Seasoned
Joined: 22 Jul 2006 Posts: 201 Location: Pinellas Park, Fl.
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:29 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the replys everyone.
I like the quality of the disguise and the toolkit idea, makes a lot of sense. Edges look good too.
From the response so far I assume that the general consensus is Persuasion to pass yourself off as the disguised person and Stealth to determine if the disguise is spotted by casual observation.
However modifiers from things like Thief, Woodsman or Obscure would not necessarily apply.
I think that'll work. It definitely stays FFF.
Thanks again for the thoughts. _________________ First rule of SW conversions: Convert the Setting, not the rules.
Second rule, don't forget the trappings
Rule #6: If violence wasn't your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it. |
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steelbrok Veteran
Joined: 07 Aug 2005 Posts: 792 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:53 am Post subject: |
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| I'd be inclined to roll the Notice skill of the observer and apply any modifiers based on kits etc to that roll |
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DerFinsterling Legendary

Joined: 13 May 2003 Posts: 5670 Location: Vienna, Austria
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Sitting Duck Legendary

Joined: 15 May 2003 Posts: 4562 Location: Podunk Junction, State of Confusion
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:13 am Post subject: |
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| Sunwolf wrote: | | However modifiers from things like Thief, Woodsman or Obscure would not necessarily apply. |
I think it could easily be argued that the bonus from Thief could be applied to Stealth rolls involving disguises. _________________ The rabbit is cuddly. Kids like little cuddly sidekicks. I mean-- The rabbit-- It's a time-tested-- Okay, the rabbit bites.
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Lord Inar Heroic

Joined: 30 May 2006 Posts: 1533 Location: Boulder, CO
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Adam Baulderstone Seasoned

Joined: 09 Jul 2007 Posts: 315 Location: Waretown, NJ
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:09 am Post subject: |
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| Lord Inar wrote: | | DerFinsterling wrote: | And a bad fake mustache might as well give a -4 to Stealth.  |
He knows! Just look at his avatar! |
Yeah, well your not fooling anyone with that phony Santa Claus beard, Lord Inar, if that is your real name. I can see the elastic from here. |
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Lord Inar Heroic

Joined: 30 May 2006 Posts: 1533 Location: Boulder, CO
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:03 am Post subject: |
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| Adam Baulderstone wrote: | | Yeah, well your not fooling anyone with that phony Santa Claus beard, Lord Inar, if that is your real name. I can see the elastic from here. |
No, no. THIS is a fake beard:
 _________________ Lord Inar
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Lord Lance Heroic

Joined: 23 Jul 2008 Posts: 1406 Location: Vicenza, Italy
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:09 am Post subject: |
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LOL!
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