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Salsa
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 Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:23 pm Post subject: Bullard Repeater or Ballard Express? The Errata |
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I suggest you to read the following article about these two weapons. Apparently there was a misconception about the so called "Bullard Express" which according to the text doesn't exist.
http://www.carolinacowboys.us/CarolinaRoughRiders/2004JulyCRRNews.pdf
| Quote: | Bullard claimed that its rifle could be fired 10
times in 5 seconds using heavy full-charge military
cartridges, and also that the previous test record
established was 11 shots in 7 seconds.
From 1886 to 1890, the Bullard Repeating Arms
Co. of Springfield, Mass. produced two models of
repeating rifles |
two quotes about the Bullard Repeater.
| Quote: | My reference book
quoted TR as saying one of his favorite guns was a
“.50-115 6-shot ‘Ballard’ Express.” The falconeyed
Big Jake Hosey put a post on the Carolina
Cowboys web site to the effect that the rifle had to
be a Bullard, not a Ballard. I checked into it, and
sure enough, Big Jake was right! Ballard rifles
were all single shot rifles and were manufactured
from 1861 through 1888. |
Impossible to do 11 shots if the ammo count isn't that.
And even if you consider that the rifle mentioned in Deadlands is a repeater due to the ammo count and not the actual Ballard Express, it's also a lie, cause they weren't even manufactured by that time.
I blame it to a typo just like the 34 ammo count for the Evans Old Model in the Marshall's Screen, back then I would joke about it, "if that's the old model, imagine the new one!!" |
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RJack
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| Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:15 am Post subject: |
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Is there some place in a Deadlands book where "Bullard" is accidently mispelled "Ballard" or vice versa? I just checked and didn't see it anywhere. Anyway, Deadlands, especially Law Dogs, has a whole bunch of firearms that are out of period. The typo seems to be listing the Bullard Express year at 1872, instead of 1886. Like the article says, Bullard really couldn't compete with the more established lever-action arms like Winchester, especially after the Winchester '86 came out with improvements to the design by Browning.
| Quote: | | I blame it to a typo just like the 34 ammo count for the Evans Old Model in the Marshall's Screen, back then I would joke about it, "if that's the old model, imagine the new one!!" |
I though the 34 shots for the Evans was true? |
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Zeb Rowe
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| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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Well, typos aside, it's easy enough to explain any out of place weapons (OOPGuns?): The tech curve is already skewed thanks to those dang manitous and their effects on the Mad Scientists.
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Tuesday
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:29 am Post subject: |
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That's always been my excuse for there being a double-action Peacemaker.
(The one bit of realism I insist on is that on weapons that old, there's nothing to prevent a gun from going off without pulling the trigger, if the chamber under the hammer is loaded and the hammer is jarred hard - like catching it in your belt loop while drawing it, or dropping it. Basically, if you're running with 6 bullets in your 6-gun all the time, and that kind of situation comes up, I'll likely have it go off.) |
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Salsa
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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I really wouldnt bother considering that, it's just that sometimes presenting such options makes all other weapons in the same category useless.
As for the Evans, I'm just impressed. I'm also sorry for my previous statement. Since I've never bothered to research on it. The first time someone who apparently knew what he was saying, told me: "They already stated it as a typo", I kinda bought it (that was years ago).
But the repeaters and double-actions were things that I could never understand as regularly available in a game set in '76. I mean the gizmos still are rare and still are quite expensive.
Anyway, the usual weird science/manitou excuse is good. Thanks. |
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